Hmm, stall, roll and it appears to by flying backwards? I can only think of one flight regime that would cause that. I am willing to be that the "hold on, I have another problem" was one engine going inop, he got slow, and VMC rolled/spun in. Ask Doug how that usually turns out.
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Hmm, stall, roll and it appears to by flying backwards? I can only think of one flight regime that would cause that. I am willing to be that the "hold on, I have another problem" was one engine going inop, he got slow, and VMC rolled/spun in. Ask Doug how that usually turns out.
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
The airplane rolling inverted at low altitude due to Vmc is not the same condition as an "inverted spin", which is what I was commenting on.
Is Doug the only person that knows about the (lack of) spin recovery potential of a light twin?
ryan1234
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If I had to take an uneducated quess/speculation... from the dynamics of it, it sounds like a dirty Vmc rollover.. high power required, one engine failure, etc....
An inverted or inverted, flat spin would be almost impossible to develop in 150'....'course anything is possible
An inverted or inverted, flat spin would be almost impossible to develop in 150'....'course anything is possible
mooneyguy
been around forever
NOT ME! if you read my post I simply made a comment about the tendancies of a baron!
R
Roger, Roger
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I wouldn't give them that much credit. I bet they focused too much on their gear problem, got slow and uncoordinated during their "uh tower is our gear down?" pass and stall/incipient spun it into the ground. Not the first time it's happened, and won't be the last. All that and tower still couldn't tell if their gear was actually locked.
Now you've done it. I'm writing your CP.
pullup
Homewrecker
:clap: I lol'd.
No, but he's the only person I know of that has actually spun a twin, all be it on accident.
The pre-lim NTSB says they came back to the tower with a "standby, I have another problem."
Are you sure that was from the field and not you or your students pants?
R
Roger, Roger
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Yeah, probably the stall warning horn going off. Or, if the failure of the gear to extend was an electrical issue, perhaps a popped breaker or electrical smell. Occam's razor points to pilot distraction and standard stall/spin, not some strange confluence of gear AND engine problems.
Also, Raytheon did spin testing on Barons a while back. For those interested, here's the report.
http://www.goodflying.com/Multi/SC147.pdf