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FAA probes new close call at LAX
Officials investigate an incident in which a landing aircraft nearly hit a plane that made a wrong turn on a taxiway Sunday.
By Jennifer Oldham, Times Staff Writer
May 12, 2007

A jumbo jet barreling down a runway at up to 100 mph at Los Angeles International Airport came as close as 50 feet to a turboprop on a nearby taxiway, officials said, in the latest such incident to point up safety concerns with the airfield's layout.

Virgin Atlantic Airways Flight 23 sped by while SkyWest Airlines Flight 1006 breached a safety zone that separates the outer runway on the airport's north side from a taxiway leading toward the terminals.

The incident at 6:35 p.m. Sunday occurred after a SkyWest pilot made a wrong turn during the evening rush hour, officials said Friday.

The Federal Aviation Administration preliminarily determined that the two arriving aircraft may have come within 50 feet of each other but emphasized that it was still investigating the incident.

However, a computer-assisted reconstruction of the incident developed by airport officials shows the larger jet's wing may have come as close as 21 feet to the smaller aircraft.

The Virgin Atlantic Airbus A340-600 was arriving from London's Heathrow Airport with 172 passengers and crew on board. A spokeswoman for the airline emphasized that the pilot "felt at no time that the safety of the passengers was in question."

A SkyWest spokeswoman said the airline was working with the FAA to determine if its pilot was at fault.

The incident is likely to be categorized as the most serious at LAX since Sept. 30, when two aircraft came so close to colliding on a runway that one rattled pilot could be heard hyperventilating on air traffic control tapes. Sunday's incident was the third such close call between aircraft on the ground at LAX this year.

Two of this year's close calls, Sunday's and one on Feb. 24, underscore long-standing safety issues with the airport's configuration. The unusual layout, which features two sets of parallel runways, requires pilots who land on an outer runway to use a series of taxiways to cross an inner runway.

Airport officials are spending $330 million to rework the two parallel runways on the airport's south side. After moving one 55 feet farther from the other, officials reopened the southernmost runway last month and began construction of a 1.8-mile-long taxiway between the two runways. When the project is finished next summer, pilots will stop on the taxiway after landing to await clearance to cross the inner runway.

The city's airport agency would like to install a similar center taxiway between the runways on the airport's north side. To do so, they are proposing pushing the outer runway closer to Westchester, a move that's opposed by airport neighbors and local and federal lawmakers who represent area residents.

Sunday's incident led agency officials to reiterate their position that the north airfield must be reconfigured to prevent close calls between aircraft.

"We got lucky again," said Paul Haney, deputy executive director of airports and security for Los Angeles World Airports. "It doesn't happen often, but when it does, the potential consequences are catastrophic."

The close call occurred after the SkyWest Embraer Brasilia landed on the outer runway and was instructed by an air traffic controller to turn left onto a taxiway. The Virgin Atlantic jet was in the air three miles behind the turboprop and closing fast. But stiff winds gusting to 33 mph slowed the smaller plane, which was arriving on a repositioning flight from Redding with only the two pilots aboard.

"SkyWest 1006, keep it rolling, please," the frustrated controller can be heard on air traffic control tapes, urging the pilot along. "Turn left off the runway."

"We're turning left," the SkyWest pilot replied.

Seconds later, the controller watched the pilot turn onto the wrong taxiway and stated the mistake on the radio, but did not ask him to turn around. The taxiways, known as Zulu and Yankee, are linked together off the outer runway in a wishbone configuration. The pilot made a hairpin turn onto Yankee although he had been instructed by the controller to use Zulu.

After the controller stated that the plane was on the wrong taxiway, the pilot spun the aircraft around and taxied back toward the runway, leading the controller to tell him to "stop right there."

A second controller yelled "Go around! Go around!" to the Virgin Atlantic jet, just as an audible alarm went off on a collision avoidance system in the control tower. But it was too late to abort the landing, officials said.

The controller then told the SkyWest pilot to make a sharp left turn onto Zulu, where he was originally instructed to go, and he did, officials said.

The turboprop was driving out of the safety zone that separates the taxiway from the runway as the Virgin jet sped by. It's likely that the Virgin jet's long wing was hanging several dozen feet into the safety zone, officials said.

"If there's a mitigating circumstance here," said Ian Gregor, an FAA spokesman, "it's that SkyWest was rolling away from the runway rather than getting closer."
 
How hard would it be to illuminate green lights in the taxiway you want me to take. As you exit a runway, simply follow the green lights, which are controlled by ground control, and don't go where there are no lights. Then have flashing red lights to hold short of other runways. Once clear to cross, the red lights would go to green. Is it really that hard? It appears Skywest pilots were in the wrong here but to their credit, those taxiway signs are very hard to read and interpret while trying to slow the airplane and get clear of the runway. The present system leaves much to be desired from a safety standpoint.
 
Glad to see everyone is OK!

I wonder if those SKW pilots were pro or con ALPA prior to this incident? Bet I know what side of the fence they're on now! Anybody need an aviation attorney????
 
How would this affect them if they are found at fault?

Could lead to certificate action.......runway incursion is an FAA "hot topic" these days! They could lose their jobs, suspensions, lots of things.....but I'm not going to speculate what happened.

We'll have to wait and see. Hopefully none of our JC Bro-drivers were involved.
 
It was a mess Sat AM on a 7am departure. Even to the point that our UAL A320 cut off a DAL 767 on the taxi way.

Channel 9 is a fun thing (I was a passenger)!

Glad it worked out, and all is safe.
 
OUCH! Where's the LUV?

I actually like and respect LUV. Throwing a barb or two (in good taste) in each others direction has been a time honored tradition in this industry for as long as I can remember. All carriers have their media moments that will provide Leno and Letterman some late night material as well as some entertainment on this forum. By the way, serious and tragic aviation accidents are off limits to light hearted comments and criticisms. Traditionally, expressions of condolences are the only thing that should be heard from the mouths of professional pilots in times like this. That is the old school way of doing things.
 
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