jwyatt1
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Here is a clip of a military aircraft losing control as he touches down!
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Bad Landing
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Maximilian_Jenius
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I wonder what went wrong.
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He should have stabilized the approach or gone around!
-Matthew
I wonder what went wrong.
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He should have stabilized the approach or gone around!
-Matthew
triplec76
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It looks like a typhoon (eurofighter or soemething?). I guess that could have happened for a lot of reasons. Caught off guard by wind shear, erratic elevator control (faulty computer if it is fly-by-wire), etc. Looked crazy though, and not a great chance of survival.
I would be surprised if he continued that landing by choice. I think fighter pilots from other countries are generally great pilots (not as good as 'ole Mikey, though)
I would be surprised if he continued that landing by choice. I think fighter pilots from other countries are generally great pilots (not as good as 'ole Mikey, though)
simulacra
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No, that was the premier flight of the Swedish JAS 39 Gryphon in 1989, strictly a media event, the aircraft itself hasn't crashed in development more than any other jet,
the only problem is that it only seems to happen when cameras are around.
Here's what happened: The aircraft was coming in on finals with some considerable gushing (?)wind from the side,
the pilot was told during inital tests that he should let the flight systems take care of the winds and simply focus on keeping the plane aligned for landing.
But it seems like there was some bugs in the flight control system so the aircraft started to over parry the wind and start oscillating,
seeing that the plane was too high he tried to lose some altitude, so he pushed the stick forward a bit, but instead of slightly lowering the nose the a/c started oscillating up and down as well.
The pilot tried to parry the aircraft but his stick input seemed to yield an entirely different result than he expected.
When he pulled the stick backward the plane started diving and the other way around, the plane seemed to control itself, or respond very poorly to stick commands.
When the pilot realized that he wouldn't be able to land the a/c safely he tried to use the afterburner to go around but too late.
He tried to eject but hit the ground before he could pull the ejection handle, and the rest is on the tape.
The investigation ruled that it was the flight contol aid that seemed to get out of synch with the pilot's movement and started exaggerating stick input.
shortly after this SAAB/BEA started using flying simulations to further evaluate the systems, today the aircraft has been sold to several countries and is logging many hours in the service of the Swedish Airforce.
Sorry if the text is confusing, but I've yet to begin my flight training and aren't really used to the aeronautical terms ...
BTW, the pilot survived the crash with only some minor bruising, the plane has crash zones to protect the center fuselage, the pictures I have of the plane after the crash shows the main fuselage totally intact apart from the nose, the wings and tail are gone though aswell as a busted landing gear.
the only problem is that it only seems to happen when cameras are around.
Here's what happened: The aircraft was coming in on finals with some considerable gushing (?)wind from the side,
the pilot was told during inital tests that he should let the flight systems take care of the winds and simply focus on keeping the plane aligned for landing.
But it seems like there was some bugs in the flight control system so the aircraft started to over parry the wind and start oscillating,
seeing that the plane was too high he tried to lose some altitude, so he pushed the stick forward a bit, but instead of slightly lowering the nose the a/c started oscillating up and down as well.
The pilot tried to parry the aircraft but his stick input seemed to yield an entirely different result than he expected.
When he pulled the stick backward the plane started diving and the other way around, the plane seemed to control itself, or respond very poorly to stick commands.
When the pilot realized that he wouldn't be able to land the a/c safely he tried to use the afterburner to go around but too late.
He tried to eject but hit the ground before he could pull the ejection handle, and the rest is on the tape.
The investigation ruled that it was the flight contol aid that seemed to get out of synch with the pilot's movement and started exaggerating stick input.
shortly after this SAAB/BEA started using flying simulations to further evaluate the systems, today the aircraft has been sold to several countries and is logging many hours in the service of the Swedish Airforce.
Sorry if the text is confusing, but I've yet to begin my flight training and aren't really used to the aeronautical terms ...
BTW, the pilot survived the crash with only some minor bruising, the plane has crash zones to protect the center fuselage, the pictures I have of the plane after the crash shows the main fuselage totally intact apart from the nose, the wings and tail are gone though aswell as a busted landing gear.
Derek_S
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Bad approaches lead to bad landings.
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So do system malfunctions. Speaking of which...
A few weeks ago we had a first time solo pilot here at Livermore Municipal airport. As he begins to start decending he pulls out the throttle but it does nothing, it's stuck at 2300 RPM (C152). So he wiggles it around, pushes in and out a few times but still nothing happens. He calls up the tower to let them know and goes around, of course the CFI hears since he has to monitor the freq. on the initial solo. The tower shuts down the class Delta airspace to all incoming traffic and gets the CFI up into the tower to come up with the best solution. When the pilot was just a little bit out and close enough to the runway they have him pull the mixture all the way out in order to cut the engine, which all worked out fine. Of course they had the airport fire dept. there by the runway waiting for any situation to occur, which I heard looked pretty cool as if Airforce One was comming in on emergency.
Bad approaches lead to bad landings.
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So do system malfunctions. Speaking of which...
A few weeks ago we had a first time solo pilot here at Livermore Municipal airport. As he begins to start decending he pulls out the throttle but it does nothing, it's stuck at 2300 RPM (C152). So he wiggles it around, pushes in and out a few times but still nothing happens. He calls up the tower to let them know and goes around, of course the CFI hears since he has to monitor the freq. on the initial solo. The tower shuts down the class Delta airspace to all incoming traffic and gets the CFI up into the tower to come up with the best solution. When the pilot was just a little bit out and close enough to the runway they have him pull the mixture all the way out in order to cut the engine, which all worked out fine. Of course they had the airport fire dept. there by the runway waiting for any situation to occur, which I heard looked pretty cool as if Airforce One was comming in on emergency.
aloft
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The pilot tried to parry the aircraft
Sorry if the text is confusing, but I've yet to begin my flight training and aren't really used to the aeronautical terms ...
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Came out fine. Perfect use of a fencing term in that description. Distinctly European.
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Flyover, p'raps you can translate, for I do not fence and have no clue what he's trying to say.
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The pilot tried to parry the aircraft
Sorry if the text is confusing, but I've yet to begin my flight training and aren't really used to the aeronautical terms ...
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Came out fine. Perfect use of a fencing term in that description. Distinctly European.
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Flyover, p'raps you can translate, for I do not fence and have no clue what he's trying to say.
PorcoRosso
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Anyone know what happened to the pilot?
Derek_S
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Anyone know what happened to the pilot?
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As simulacra posted:
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BTW, the pilot survived the crash with only some minor bruising, the plane has crash zones to protect the center fuselage, the pictures I have of the plane after the crash shows the main fuselage totally intact apart from the nose, the wings and tail are gone though aswell as a busted landing gear.
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Anyone know what happened to the pilot?
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As simulacra posted:
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BTW, the pilot survived the crash with only some minor bruising, the plane has crash zones to protect the center fuselage, the pictures I have of the plane after the crash shows the main fuselage totally intact apart from the nose, the wings and tail are gone though aswell as a busted landing gear.
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PorcoRosso
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well then. . . .
