AZ Flight School Fined $330,000

mshunter said:
I heard about this on KNX1070 today. I'm curious to see if they will revoke the students certificates.

I was talking with another CFI today about this and he told me that he knows a CFI who had to take his checkride twice because he flew an airplane that was missing the seat rail pins in a 172, so it was technically not airworthy.
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The students' certs have been suspended.

Man... how much would that suck? You spend thousands, tens of thousands of dollars pursuing a career then have the rug pulled from under you because of something you had no control over (really... how many students are in the position to fully understand 141 regs...).
 
Yikes. It sounds like a school problem and not a student problem.
However, the students had failed to complete the training specified in the school's course of training, failed to pass the required final test and failed to complete all the curriculum requirements of the course, FAA said.
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It doesn't sound like they have in-house testing.

I'd almost bet that disgruntled (because they failed) students were the whistle blowers.
 
Wow, I got my CFI/CFII/MEI from this place in 2004. Part 61 (so no specific course curriculum), but dayum!
 
this shoots a giant hole in my theory. I was under the impression that once you pass a check ride for a certain certificate, it's yours, even if a requirement was missed by the DPE.
 
Oh wow, this doesn't surprise me. All the kids who didn't want to go through Riddle's flight program went to NorthScare. I bet their parent's are glad they let them take the "cheaper" alternative.

The owner, James, has been running a shady business for years.
 
MatixPilot said:
Oh wow, this doesn't surprise me. All the kids who didn't want to go through Riddle's flight program went to NorthScare. I bet their parent's are glad they let them take the "cheaper" alternative.

The owner, James, has been running a shady business for years.
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James had his examiner ticket revoked years ago and sold it. He hasn't owned the company for a few years.
 
nultechApr-20 @ 11:43 AM Report abuse 13

I don't want to see anyone flying armed with only a "Flying for Dummies" book.....
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Seen in the comments following the article. That's just too classic! :D
 
Probably be some former instructors on the hook as well since their signature should be all over those syllabi and logbooks.
 
ftyflyboy said:
this shoots a giant hole in my theory. I was under the impression that once you pass a check ride for a certain certificate, it's yours, even if a requirement was missed by the DPE.
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That kind of makes sense, but should the examiners be expected to know the TCO for any 141 checkride they do?
 
poser765 said:
That kind of makes sense, but should the examiners be expected to know the TCO for any 141 checkride they do?
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For the most part no. The school issues the grad cert which pretty much says "we did what we (and the FAA) says we would do." The DPE checks the times, required flights and sign offs but not TCO or stage/EOC checks.
 
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