Aviation issues!?

Crop Duster said:
Fun stuff to know, especially at cocktail parties with FAA officials or ground school instructors. Even better stuff to be able to reference quickly. But if that is what @Dispatch_Ken's potential employer is focusing on, I'd suggest he try to find a different potential employer. Unless Ken is applying for a Wx Forecasting position (e.g. entering those numbers into a mainframe with the intent of modelling Wx) or an avionics position (e.g. digging into the innards of and trying to fine tune a baro system), those are rather irrelevant numbers.
Kinda sorta seems more useful to focus on stuff like "What preflight paperwork do you need to fly to Calgary or Puerto Vallarta?, "When can you descend below minimums on a circling approach?, etc. Maybe the Wx question is a tie breaker, but still seems like a better overtime question could be devised.
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Personally, my favorite obscuration code is smoke. :D

Dispatch_Ken said:
KCVG 061752Z 36017G25KT 4SM BR BKN009 OVC011 04/02 A3027 RMK AO2 SLP249 60023T00390017 10061 20039 51025

As I was going through this METAR I realized I'm not entirely certain what these strings of numbers represent.
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"Nice to know."
 
:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:;):cool:
Crop Duster said:
Fun stuff to know, especially at cocktail parties with FAA officials or ground school instructors. Even better stuff to be able to reference quickly. But if that is what @Dispatch_Ken's potential employer is focusing on, I'd suggest he try to find a different potential employer. Unless Ken is applying for a Wx Forecasting position (e.g. entering those numbers into a mainframe with the intent of modelling Wx) or an avionics position (e.g. digging into the innards of and trying to fine tune a baro system), those are rather irrelevant numbers.
Kinda sorta seems more useful to focus on stuff like "What preflight paperwork do you need to fly to Calgary or Puerto Vallarta?, "When can you descend below minimums on a circling approach?, etc. Maybe the Wx question is a tie breaker, but still seems like a better overtime question could be devised.
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But thanks ;)
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Yes. Because I have the maturity and sense of humor of a 12 year old I find this fact funny.
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Now that you are on the Big Boy jet you might get to go to places like KLIT and PNS again and giggle all the way in.

Or... even better you could take your jet (although you probably won't because it has ENGINES UNDER THE WINGS!!!) to New Bern, NC and talk to SEYMOUR JOHNSON Approach before getting handed off to Cherry Point to land at the Coastal Carolina Regional Airport in CRAVEN County's beautiful MOOREHEAD City.
 
BobDDuck said:
Now that you are on the Big Boy jet you might get to go to places like KLIT and PNS again and giggle all the way in.
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@lindseyv

Or... even better you could take your jet (although you probably won't because it has ENGINES UNDER THE WINGS!!!) to New Bern, NC and talk to SEYMOUR JOHNSON Approach before getting handed off to Cherry Point to land at the Coastal Carolina Regional Airport in CRAVEN County's beautiful MOOREHEAD City.
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Passenger in 1A, and forward FA: "What is that hysterical laughter coming from the right seat?"
 
CirrusMonkey said:
This was a pretty good study aide for me when I was prepping for my last interview:
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So that was very helpful, but im still not entirely certain how to read

KCVG 061752Z 36017G25KT 4SM BR BKN009 OVC011 04/02 A3027 RMK AO2 SLP249 60023T00390017 10061 20039 51025?

Or this one:

KOKC 062352Z 02005KT 1/2SM R35R/P6000FT -DZ FG OVC002 07/06 A3048 RMK AO2 DZB49 SLP322 P0000 60000 T00720061 10078 20061 50009
 
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Dispatch_Ken said:
So that was very helpful, but im still not entirely certain how to read

KCVG 061752Z 36017G25KT 4SM BR BKN009 OVC011 04/02 A3027 RMK AO2 SLP249 60023T00390017 10061 20039 51025?
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5 - prefix code for pressure change in last 3 hours
1 - rising (0-3 rising, 4 steady, 5-8 dropping)
025 - 2.5mb - amount change
 
Ok so the KOKC METAR I posted shows "50009" what information should I gather from that?
 
Pressure change over the last three hours was 0.9 mb. When the pressure change occurred it increased at a fast rate of change (obviously it didn't take the entire 3 hours to change).
 
KISP 080456Z 03014KT 10SM CLR M03/M13 A3059 RMK AO2 SLP360 LAST AUGMENTED OBSERVATION UNTIL 1100Z T10281128 400561028

Any ideas on the numbers in bold?
 
400561028

Max/Min temperature in the last 24 hours in degrees C
Max 5.6 / Min -2.8
 
So if a METAR for an airport is showing below mins on visibility but the RMK section shows an SFC (or TWR) visibility that is above mins can you still begin the approach?
 
Dispatch_Ken said:
So that was very helpful, but im still not entirely certain how to read

KCVG 061752Z 36017G25KT 4SM BR BKN009 OVC011 04/02 A3027 RMK AO2 SLP249 60023T00390017 10061 20039 51025?

Or this one:

KOKC 062352Z 02005KT 1/2SM R35R/P6000FT -DZ FG OVC002 07/06 A3048 RMK AO2 DZB49 SLP322 P0000 60000 T00720061 10078 20061 50009
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I've had quite a few professional pilot jobs over the course of 12 years including corporate, 135 cargo and now 121 pax, and I've had to [temporarily] memorize this crap several times. But it really is BS because in my variety of experience, I've never once had to use that information in any real world scenario. If it ever was a factor, there are numerous resources that can be readily accessed to get that information.

It genuinely has no practical application to normal or even abnormal flight ops and I find it pretty annoying that it still comes up in interviews. There doesn't seem to be a rational argument for keeping these cryptic codes around. The fact that they are used for interview trivia demonstrates how poorly they communicate useful information. But then maybe I just have a bad attitude.
 
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