ATP Test Questions (Supplemental Air Carriers)

[ready2fly]

Okay.....I'm confused. Don't these two statements contradict each other?

FAR 121.503: "No pilot may fly as a crewmember of a supplemental air carrier more than 100 hr. during any 30 consecutive days."

FAR 121.521: "The maximum number of hours that a supplemental air carrier airman may be aloft in any 30 consecutive days as a member of a flight crew that consists of two pilots and at least one additional flight crewmember is 120 hr."

I get that the additonal crewmember apparently makes the difference allowing the extra 20 hrs....but, doesn't the first statement kind of supercede the second one?

If "no cremember" can fly more than 100 hrs in 30 days.....

Anyone want to tackle that one?

(feel free to move this to another section ).

 

[mtsu_av8er]

It would seem that they do contradict each other, Stan - but they don't! It's just the FAA's bad explanation of their rule. That third crewmember allows the crew to fly that much longer!

Here's a blurb from a NPRM [Docket No. 28081; Notice No. 95-18]:

Existing rules, ( 121.483, 121.485, 121.507,
121.509, 121.521, 121.523) require augmented flightcrews for
longer duty periods.

If you want to read the whole NPRM, here ya go!!

 

[pilot602]

Okay.....I'm confused. Don't these two statements contradict each other?

FAR 121.503: "No pilot may fly as a crewmember of a supplemental air carrier more than 100 hr. during any 30 consecutive days."

FAR 121.521: "The maximum number of hours that a supplemental air carrier airman may be aloft in any 30 consecutive days as a member of a flight crew that consists of two pilots and at least one additional flight crewmember is 120 hr."

I get that the additonal crewmember apparently makes the difference allowing the extra 20 hrs....but, doesn't the first statement kind of supercede the second one?

If "no cremember" can fly more than 100 hrs in 30 days.....

Anyone want to tackle that one?

(feel free to move this to another section ).

Wait till you find out a 121 carrier is allowed to use 135 duty/rest rules in certain conditions! wacka wacka wacka

Just memorize the test, take it and be done with it. You'll learn everything you need to know about real 121 life in groundschool.

 

[wheelsup]

I'm not claiming to know the reason, but my thought is that you can't FLY more than 100 hours (ie occupy a seat) nor can you ride in the aircraft more than 120 hours (ie lay in a bunk). Air carriers are allowed to fly more than 8 hours in a day if they have additional crew members that take over in flight (ie for something like a 15 hour flight, you'd need atleast 2 crews). Even though you wouldn't be flying for half that time, you're still "aloft" in the aircraft.

Thoughts?

~wheelsup