ATP plane down at FWS

When I have a military guy say that on a checkout I'm happy to hear it. Better to sound like an idiot then to look like one.
 
Douglas said:
Sure it is a good practice, but if you are in a 172 today I'd expect the wherewithal to omit the verbal gear down call to tower.
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Long ingrained habits are sometimes hard to break, especially when in the swing of things and maybe not flying an aircraft you normally always fly.
 
MikeD said:
Long ingrained habits are sometimes hard to break, especially when in the swing of things and maybe not flying an aircraft you normally always fly.
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Which is why the Flight Instructor should tell the pilot that it is unnecessary to make a gear down call on freq in a airplane that has fixed gear.
 
ryanmickG said:
Which is why the Flight Instructor should tell the pilot that it is unnecessary to make a gear down call on freq in a airplane that has fixed gear.
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And if he does so, then no issue. But if he just facepalms himself, then nothing changes.
 
MikeD said:
And if he does so, then no issue. But if he just facepalms himself, then nothing changes.
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Agree.

I guess I was just arguing with people saying that there is nothing wrong with a freq gear check. You should adapt to the equipment you're flying. And yes, it is the instructors job to adapt them.








After the facepalm. ;)
 
ahmed said:
WOW reported
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Not to worry. I spanked the big mean man.

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To their credit, the editors actually fixed the story and wrote a note saying "an earlier version of this story from the AP incorrectly stated the airplane made a belly landing." Horray journalistic integrity! :)

ahmed said:
WOW reported
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Given the casual and friendly tone of their continued conversation... I think he was just kidding dude.

Edit: MikeD U r mean!!!111
 
We have C-130 pilots who confirm their gear down status on FAF. That is a norm. Civilian field though.
 
Guy said:
I don't know how their controllers are instructed, but it does seem to be the norm at USAF bases.

I'm pretty certain they don't do it any longer, but the USN used to have someone stationed at the end of the runway with a flare gun. His job was to fire a red flare if an airplane came in gear up, thereby signaling the pilot to go around.
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When I was flying at the Osan Aero club at the Air Force Base in Korea, even in our little 70's 172's, standard tower phraseology was "Cessna 94ER, winds whatever, number 1 cleared to land, check gear down."
 
ozziecat35 said:
When I was flying at the Osan Aero club at the Air Force Base in Korea, even in our little 70's 172's, standard tower phraseology was "Cessna 94ER, winds whatever, number 1 cleared to land, check gear down."
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As I mentioned, it's required for military operations for FW aircraft.
 
Actually, the Air Force phraseology was, "N123, check wheels down, cleared to land," even on aircraft we knew to have fixed gear. No exceptions. And that phraseology for both USN and USAF is still contained in the FAAO 7110.65 to this day.
 
RDoug said:
Actually, the Air Force phraseology was, "N123, check wheels down, cleared to land," even on aircraft we knew to have fixed gear. No exceptions. And that phraseology for both USN and USAF is still contained in the FAAO 7110.65 to this day.
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This.

For all the unoriginal "down and welded" types out there.
 
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