ATP in a light twin?

SpiraMirabilis said:
It doesn't, unless the employer says not to bother training/checking for it. You can demonstrate a circling maneuver in the sim, in a very contrived and fake way.
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Yep. I talked to the guys down at Higher Power, and I could get the restriction removed along with the training for a 737 type.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
It doesn't, unless the employer says not to bother training/checking for it. You can demonstrate a circling maneuver in the sim, in a very contrived and fake way.
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And I seriously doubt any 135/91 employer would insist their pilots get the restriction. It'd make getting into places like TEB impossible sometimes.
 
Just to clarify, it is not a restriction against circling approaches but a restriction against circling approaches in less than VMC.
 
vikingair said:
I've been instructing for two years and now have the requirements for the ME ATP. I've been actively flying the twins, am confident in my skills and knowledge, have access to a plane and have a good relationship with the DPE whom I know would be thorough but fair.
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If you know the DPE well, you might ask him if he's in need of his annual FAA ride. Tell him you'd be willing to be his candidate if he discounts his exam fee.

When I was getting ready for a PVT MEL test, my CFI asked if I would mind if the DPE brought along an FAA guy. I wasn't really comfortable doing so, so he didn't offer me up to the DPE; but I should have asked him for a discount instead of just saying no. Somewhere in the 50-100% off category would have been enough for me to consider it.
 
Nihon_Ni said:
If you know the DPE well, you might ask him if he's in need of his annual FAA ride. Tell him you'd be willing to be his candidate if he discounts his exam fee.

When I was getting ready for a PVT MEL test, my CFI asked if I would mind if the DPE brought along an FAA guy. I wasn't really comfortable doing so, so he didn't offer me up to the DPE; but I should have asked him for a discount instead of just saying no. Somewhere in the 50-100% off category would have been enough for me to consider it.
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I was offered a free ATP checkride if I let the DPE use me as his guinea pig since he was working to obtain ATP examining authority. In my opinion, the risk is just too great.
 
Patrick said:
I was offered a free ATP checkride if I let the DPE use me as his guinea pig since he was working to obtain ATP examining authority. In my opinion, the risk is just too great.
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In theory, the ride should be no different as the PTS doesn't change. The added stress of having an FAA guy watching over the shoulder of the guy watching over your shoulder...now that's another story.
 
Patrick said:
Something to consider, is doing an ATP ASEL. It does qualify you "as an ATP," and with the growing number of PC-12's and TBM's in operation, I'd argue it will hold some value as we move forward. The single ATP is a cheap rating, as it can be done in any complex aircraft. Plus, as far as separating yourself from everyone else, very few people have an ATP ASEL.
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You get one in van also. (Not complex)
 
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