ATP Cross Country times

You fly at least 50 nm away from your home base on ever training flight? Where the heck are you? We're pretty busy but our practice areas are only 15 miles away.


I did not say that. I said we fly at least 50nm every flight. I never said it was away from the home base. We have an instructor that will long a flight that is LZU-LZU and only went to the practice area (10nm away) as a cross country.

He says that it is a cross country due the fact that he flew over 50nm. I believe his reasoning is wrong. You have to fly 50nm straight line for it to count as a cross country.
 
I did not say that. I said we fly at least 50nm every flight. I never said it was away from the home base. We have an instructor that will long a flight that is LZU-LZU and only went to the practice area (10nm away) as a cross country.

He says that it is a cross country due the fact that he flew over 50nm. I believe his reasoning is wrong. You have to fly 50nm straight line for it to count as a cross country.


Ive always used the 50nm straight line distance as a XC.....What that instructor is doing doesnt sound right to me.
 
I did not say that. I said we fly at least 50nm every flight. I never said it was away from the home base. We have an instructor that will long a flight that is LZU-LZU and only went to the practice area (10nm away) as a cross country.

He says that it is a cross country due the fact that he flew over 50nm. I believe his reasoning is wrong. You have to fly 50nm straight line for it to count as a cross country.

He has no reasoning.

(B) That is at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

He's just plain wrong.
 
He has no reasoning.



He's just plain wrong.
Or just plain illiterate.

61.1 gives three definitions of cross country. When you use them depends on what you are counting them for:

(1) flight with a landing at a location more than 50 nm away from the point of origin - counts as cross country toward Part 61 certificate and ratings unless the requirement for a specific certificate of rating says something different.

(2) flight without a landing more than 50 nm from the point of origin - counts as cross country toward ATP certificate requirements.

(3) flight with a landing at another location without regard to distance - counts toward anything that is not covered by (1) or (2).

I can't even begin to imagine where someone literate could possibly read the requirements and come up with "fly around the airport 25 times and land"
 
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