ATP and A&P

C150J

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Any turbine operators out there prefer an individual with both qualifications and substantive experience? I know there are a lot of recip outfits in AK that like to see both, and I know that some long-range corporate operations carry a mechanic, but I'm interested in the utility of a "dual-rated" individual.


Just trying to feed my curiosity. Thanks guys!

J.
 
Any turbine operators out there prefer an individual with both qualifications and substantive experience? I know there are a lot of recip outfits in AK that like to see both, and I know that some long-range corporate operations carry a mechanic, but I'm interested in the utility of a "dual-rated" individual.


Just trying to feed my curiosity. Thanks guys!

J.

I would be cautious of this unless you like working in the shop as much as you like flying.
 
I would be cautious of this unless you like working in the shop as much as you like flying.

Is that the case in AK? I was thinking along the lines of an embedded mechanic helping when assets are far, far away from standard maintenance facilities, with the ability to liaise between local mechanics and company resources.
 
Any turbine operators out there prefer an individual with both qualifications and substantive experience? I know there are a lot of recip outfits in AK that like to see both, and I know that some long-range corporate operations carry a mechanic, but I'm interested in the utility of a "dual-rated" individual.


Just trying to feed my curiosity. Thanks guys!

J.

I don't have an ATP (yet, should get off my duff & knock it out), but I am a commercial pilot with an A&P. I have worked as a pilot. I have worked as a mechanic. But, I have never worked at the same time in the same place as both.

The A&P has got my foot in the door before, however once hired my foot would seem to get stuck in the hangar door. Nothing is worse for a pilot/mechanic than to spend many hours pouring blood, sweat, & tears turning wrenches on an airplane, especially one you are qualified to fly, just to roll it out of the hangar & watch a couple of other pilots fly off with it. I have been told by upper management that "Good mechanics are hard to come by, and pilots are a dime a dozen."

On the flip-side, being dual rated has hindered me from being hired as a mechanic. Several times I have been told by a Director of Maintenance that "I don't hire guys with a pilot's license." The reason is always the same, because mechanics that are also pilots will leave the first chance they get to go fly. I can dig that, mostly because it's pretty much true.

I would love to work at a place where I can be a pilot and a mechanic. I've been to Alaska (just got back in fact). I love recips, especially round engines. I would prefer to get my hands dirty on something burning avgas than something burning kerosene any day. Yet so far, most of my aviation experience has been "segregated"; places where pilots are pilots, and mechanics are mechanics.

Just my experience, perhaps others have had better luck than I in making the "dual-rated" career work!
 
The 135 op I just got on with couldn't care less that I have my A&P. In fact, I'm barred completely from wrenching on any company airplane.

I'm not wanting to be a pilot and mechanic, I'm wanting to find my way into the front office since that's where the stability and money seem to be. Eventually I hope to work my way up to the D.O. job with a 135 operation so that I can fly when I want, wrench when I want, but use my problem solving skills for the day to day operations and create a place that both makes money and is a great place to work.

As much as I love flying and wrenching I love seeing my wife every night more.
 
I would be cautious of this unless you like working in the shop as much as you like flying.

The A&P has got my foot in the door before, however once hired my foot would seem to get stuck in the hangar door.

at our place, you are one or the other.
These all seem to be fairly typical. As Stonefly said, truly good mechs are hard to find and hold on to, while pilots are a dime a dozen and as long as they're not crashing airplanes or scaring passengers it doesn't really matter if they're good at troubleshooting or whatnot.
The 135 op I just got on with couldn't care less that I have my A&P. In fact, I'm barred completely from wrenching on any company airplane.

I'm not wanting to be a pilot and mechanic, I'm wanting to find my way into the front office since that's where the stability and money seem to be. Eventually I hope to work my way up to the D.O. job with a 135 operation so that I can fly when I want, wrench when I want, but use my problem solving skills for the day to day operations and create a place that both makes money and is a great place to work.
Wanna keep my resume on file?
As much as I love flying and wrenching I love seeing my wife every night more.
+1.
 
This is something I have been thinking about for awhile. The only place I've heard of looking for both is Dynamic which is a place I would love to get on with. I'll be getting my A&P more for the fact that I will be owning my own aircraft in the near future and it will basically pay for itself for a short period of time.

=Jason-
 
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