ASA Loses groud ops

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Delta shoves ASA aside
Mainline staff to run affiliate's Atlanta ground operations

After years of watching Atlantic Southeast Airlines trail the pack in customer service rankings, Delta Air Lines said it plans to take over the "Delta Connection" carrier's ground operations at the Atlanta airport.

Delta said it expects to start running ASA gates, baggage handling, aircraft cleaning and most other nonflying tasks as of June 1.

The move means Delta will likely have to add a large number of employees at the Atlanta airport, although the company said it has not determined how many. A Delta executive said he expects the "vast majority" to come from ASA's operations.

ASA currently has about 1,400 employees in Atlanta ground operations.

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http://www.ajc.com/business/content/printedition/2007/03/03/bizdelta0303a.html
Just another example of a higher-up "not thinking". It's just like the government creating the TSA and turning an $8/hr job into a $15-$20/hr job.
 
Just another example of a higher-up "not thinking". It's just like the government creating the TSA and turning an $8/hr job into a $15-$20/hr job.

They're thinking.





Unfortunately I fear it's "let's get rid of ASA."
 
This will position them to operate ANY carrier in ATL, be it ASA, Skywest, PCL, or anyone else.

Might actually be a good management choice. Now if they would just allow mainline to fly the flights would be the next GREAT step.
 
This will position them to operate ANY carrier in ATL, be it ASA, Skywest, PCL, or anyone else.

Might actually be a good management choice. Now if they would just allow mainline to fly the flights would be the next GREAT step.

You're saying that ASA ground handlers can only handle ASA flights? That doesn't make much sense, we get handled by various companies. Also, if they are hiring the same people that are producing the poor performance, how will this help? That was my point :).
 
You're saying that ASA ground handlers can only handle ASA flights? That doesn't make much sense, we get handled by various companies. Also, if they are hiring the same people that are producing the poor performance, how will this help? That was my point :).

Hopefully they will use it to get rid of the bad, reward the good. That and I bet total number of new ground handlers will be less then DAL+ASA currently.
 
Hopefully they will use it to get rid of the bad, reward the good. That and I bet total number of new ground handlers will be less then DAL+ASA currently.


The question is will they be able to find enough good people. Our ATL ops are pretty good. It's contracted out, but they do a nice job. The turnover is actually pretty low (I see the same people all the time) as opposed to PHL, which sucks and has high turn over. The turn over there is so high that they have run out of qualified people to hire. Hence you get work release people who duck and hide ever time the 5-0 drives by the ramp.
 
The question is will they be able to find enough good people. Our ATL ops are pretty good. It's contracted out, but they do a nice job. The turnover is actually pretty low (I see the same people all the time) as opposed to PHL, which sucks and has high turn over. The turn over there is so high that they have run out of qualified people to hire. Hence you get work release people who duck and hide ever time the 5-0 drives by the ramp.

You guys have alot of reported stolen or rumage bags then?
 
You guys have alot of reported stolen or rumage bags then?
Dude don't even get me started on that great hub that's called PHL! Bags, parts... you name it, it gets lost in the black hole of Philly! Hell they can't even get a stroller from the jetway to the aircraft or from one aircraft to the other a gate away. ATL is just as bad as far as parts black hole. I will not send anything through ATL. It'll disappear.
 
Hey CVG is just as bad. They sent a busted windshield BACK up here after it already got to where it needed to be (CVG).

Dude CVG CS looses so many AOG parts, especially at the A gates. AOG COMAT doesn't register to them. They'll put it on, take it off, leave it lying on a belt loader for 6 hrs, won't take it off the a/c ala last weks tour of from Halifax to CVG to BGR. Funny how the aircraft went to BGR! We got had parts supervise the offload from BGR the next morning. They have hired so many CS here in the past 6 months, it has me believing that half the staion's CS is FNG's.
 
I didn't check the airplane routing but the AWB sticker to BGR was still on the crate. I figured they took it off and loaded it on the BGR flight. Well then I taged it all for the AM flight back and it was STILL there when I got in that afternoon.

Lazy 'tards didn't want to load a 225 lb. box crate in the airplane. So it didnt get back until 11pm or so after the afternoon turn had a flap issue. :banghead:

Is all of CHQ on the A gates now? Comair and ASA on C?
 
ASA started out at A gates, then we let them come over to Comair gates. It's all CHQ. We had some SkyWest flights in and out of here in last month on some routes but are now ASA 70 seaters.
 
So when are they just going to integrate the ASA/Skywest lists? Because either ASA is going to disapear, or become part of Skywest sooner or later.

Heck, the upgrade time for the ASA guys might go down if that were to happen.
 
So when are they just going to integrate the ASA/Skywest lists? Because either ASA is going to disapear, or become part of Skywest sooner or later.

Should be simple to do - after all it's only taken America West, US Air over 2 years, they're nowhere near completion and the union is so desparate they tried to sue in court and it got tossed out in less than 24 hours (which takes some doing, you can't get a traffic ticket tossed in 24 hours).

So I'm thinking next week.

Heck, the upgrade time for the ASA guys might go down if that were to happen.

Not so much if they get stapled - and don't laugh, they might. Skywest is not ALPA, they have no skin in the game and no "guidance" on how to merge lists and they just might decide THEY want quicker upgrades.
 
I'm close with someone who works below wing for an ASA outstation, and his coworkers are feeling pretty stressed about it, apparantly, their main source of news being (somewhat disgruntled) pilots incoming from ATL. Is this a foreshadowing of something to come, or business as usual after ruffling a few feathers in ATL, do ya'll think? What would you think about the wisdom of interviewing/being a new hire now? I'm wondering if his co-workers are getting in over-much of a kerfluffle, or if they're accurate in their predictions of overall gloom for the company...

-A-
 
Man, I flew into PHL three times last week, and if I never go back, I'll be alright with it. Grounds service (bags, marshalling and jet bridge) is NWA mainline, which is cool. They're always there to meet the plane, pull the bridge up and get the bags loaded in a timely fashion. The screwed up thing is Delta Global handles our pushback. NWA mainline CAN do it, but DAL Global is apparently CHEAPER, so PCL uses them. We waited FIFTY SEVEN minutes the other day for the push crew to show up. This was after about four calls to operations and a cell phone call to DAL Global supervisor. Turns out the Delta flights get priority and they were behind. So, if we hadn't kept calling, we probably wouldn't have been pushed back for another couple of HOURS.
 
Man, I flew into PHL three times last week, and if I never go back, I'll be alright with it. Grounds service (bags, marshalling and jet bridge) is NWA mainline, which is cool. They're always there to meet the plane, pull the bridge up and get the bags loaded in a timely fashion. The screwed up thing is Delta Global handles our pushback. NWA mainline CAN do it, but DAL Global is apparently CHEAPER, so PCL uses them. We waited FIFTY SEVEN minutes the other day for the push crew to show up. This was after about four calls to operations and a cell phone call to DAL Global supervisor. Turns out the Delta flights get priority and they were behind. So, if we hadn't kept calling, we probably wouldn't have been pushed back for another couple of HOURS.

What, why didn't you throw those cascade thrust reversers into action and back out manually?
 
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