Are you pros being paid appropriately?

[Blackhawk]

They didn't want a reduction in service and quality along with it, though. Khan told them that things would continue as they were, only with cheaper promises. He was a conman, and yes, everyone has suffered as a result.

Of course people want Kolbe beef at Chuck round prices. It aint happening, however. Some domestic airlines have tried to go with quality, but failed such as Midwest Express. What people say they want and what people actually open their wallets to pay for are two different things.
Personally, the libertarian in my is kind of glad the government for out of the business of protecting certain groups over others in the airline industry.... For the most part.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

You fundamentally misunderstand regulation. The CAB never "protected certain groups over others." It protected everyone. Republic was as secure as Delta was as secure as Pan Am and so on. They system was imminently fair. Submit a bid, and whoever can provide the best price while still providing good service got awarded the route. No bankruptcies, no pension decimation, no peanuts thrown at your head by FAs dressed like camp counselors, etc.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

The seniority system was created under a regulated system, and career portability was a non-issue then. Instead of bitching about seniority, perhaps you should be bitching about de-regulation.

I can bitch about both

 

[Blackhawk]

You fundamentally misunderstand regulation. The CAB never "protected certain groups over others." It protected everyone. Republic was as secure as Delta was as secure as Pan Am and so on. They system was imminently fair. Submit a bid, and whoever can provide the best price while still providing good service got awarded the route. No bankruptcies, no pension decimation, no peanuts thrown at your head by FAs dressed like camp counselors, etc.

Actually, it did. If you wanted to start a new airline that competed against a Pan Am route you couldn't as you were not part of the protected class, and believe me Juan Tripp was part of the protected, privileged class. No FA's dressed like camp counselors because airlines such as SWA were prevented from competing against the "big boys" who had clout. Heck, even after deregulation the Wright Amendment was used to limit SWA and to protect one of the "privileged" airlines, Braniff. The full Wright Amendment was not appealed until last year, long after Braniff's demise, in order to protect legacy carriers against SWA.
No bankruptcies, no pension decimation- well, fair to the workers, not fair to the public who paid for this in higher airfares.
Also while the service was good, the cost was much higher. Many in the public were forced to drive their cars versus taking commercial air. Since the driving is more dangerous regulation also cost more consumers their lives. Heck, growing up I remember traveling by air only a few times. In each case grand parents paid for it as there is no way my parents could afford to do so.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Actually, it did. If you wanted to start a new airline that competed against a Pan Am route you couldn't as you were not part of the protected class, and believe me Juan Tripp was part of the protected, privileged class.

That's because the market was already flooded with plenty of airlines competing for routes. We didn't need anymore. Allowing all of those new entrants is what screwed up the industry, and that's exactly why it never should have been allowed.

No FA's dressed like camp counselors because airlines such as SWA were prevented from competing against the "big boys" who had clout.

Exactly as they should have been.