Are all AA pilots old??...:P AA Pilot Profile

Alchemy said:
What? The "this plane is too small" comments don't stop once you work for a "major"? If I was still hearing that every day after a thirty year career I think I'd take need to be institutionalized in short order.

A few days ago I encountered a quartet of TSA "securitrons" standing at one of our gates, loudly proclaiming how claustrophobic they become while inside of our aircraft. That's gotta be good for business...... :banghead: I don't come to their house, stand in front of their garage, and make fun of their geo metro, so please, extend us the same courtesy. I've been flying the thing for 3 and a half years, I have its dimensions memorized, so I'm well aware of its size.

But back on topic, AA hasn't hired anyone since they merged with TWA, and that was what, 2000? So the youngest ones you'd find would probably be at least in their mid 30's. They still have about 2,000 pilots on furlough I think, and their most Jr. Captain was an august 1991 hire.
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08/91? I didn't know that they still had 2000 guys on furlough. This may be a dumb question but if I were a captain at eagle what would be my chances of moving up to American as say a FO on an MD-80?
 
The "flow-through" program at Eagle is not something that any new-hire should even worry about.

You can't just "move up" to an 80 F/O seat at AA. If they're hiring, you can put in an app like anyone else, and wait to get called. Then you go through the same interview as everybody else. When you go, you lose all your occupational senority (company senority you keep, but that does not affect your bidding or pay).
 
Here's the stuff I've noticed walking around the AA Academy:

There aren't really 2000 furloughees left. As the rumors swirl that I've heard, a good number have been called and passed up recall, and the ones remaining should be back by the end of summer. Either that, or the remaining flowbacks to Eagle will be gone. Something like that.

The AA pilot group average just went younger- allegedly about 200 777 Captains decided to take the money and run. Given the fluctuations in retirement benefits, there was a mass retirement bid recently. Word on the street has AA parking 777s while they struggle to upgrade new skippers.

Beyond that- the flowthough? The most any Eagle newhire would have to look forward to with THAT is more movement in the upper half of the Eagle seniority list (ie, a possible reduction in Eagle upgrade time).

Right now TA Letter 3 arbitration is about to be ruled on and a few other things are in the works, too. With the APA and AMR staring each other down at gunpoint at the negotiating table and Eagle on the auction block, things WILL be interesting here at AMR in the days to come.

In the meantime, hiring continues at Eagle. If you want to work there, NOW is the time to apply.
 
From AA:

We expect a bumper crop of retirees Feb 1 due to B Fund loss. The
last I heard, the B Fund unit value is down nearly $20 for pilots with
Oct lock-in for Feb retirement.

We've already cancelled a number of 777 trips in Feb, and we may have to
cancel lots more if all go. We expect to lose at least 40 777 captains
and 40 767 captains (200 total locked in) unless the B Fund stages a
miraculous recovery in the next week.
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Every time you bump a thread, a baby harp seal gets clubbed.

I can't remember the details of their retirement plan changes, but it made a lot of sense for them to do it.

Heck, a few years ago, divorces spiked up at AA because of retirement advantages. I'm too tired and lazy to remember/look up the details of "why" so it'll have to wait.
 
So I was talking to an FO today who said that there will probably be another big retirement dump in 2 years, because of something about government retirement plans at 62. Anyone have useful info on that?
 
Urh?

AA grapples with retirement-related flight cancellations

American Airlines Inc. has increased to 52 the number of February flights it is canceling because of a high number of pilot retirements. The carrier originally had canceled 28 flights, or 14 round trips, after about 150 pilots gave notice that they intended to retire as of Friday. In fact, 143 veteran pilots went ahead with plans to retire.
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As for AA, the Tribune says the large number of retirements stemmed from a market-based contract quirk that allowed pilots to receive a bigger package by retiring early. Pilots with 30 years of service to AA would make gain about $300,000 by doing so, AA's pilots union tells the Tribune.
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Any idea what that "quirk" is?
 
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