Alchemy
Well-Known Member
Hi,
I recently stumbled upon the following scenario at work. We were on the arrival into Chongqing, PRC when RVR for the approach (RWY 02R) dropped below 600 meters. The approach plate lists 720 meters as the required RVR. However, included in our Jeppesen plates was a "10-9S" page that lists minimums for the same approach as 550 meters. I told the captain I would be fine with shooting the approach at 550 meters (as I was not too enthusiastic about diverting to Chengdu at 0300 local time) but he was hesitant. He didn't want to do it, and kept accusing me of looking at takeoff minimums or something. Anyway, it turned out to be a moot point because RVR dropped all the way to 400m, we held for about 30 minutes; then it improved all the way up to 1000m and we landed uneventfully.
I was wondering if anyone could clarify the significance of the 10-9S page. Why would there be two seperate set of minimums listed for the same approach? It's very possible that I'm missing an obvious note somewhere; if so please point it out and I'll go back to my corner. The dates on both plates are identical. Why bother to make seperate minimums and list them in the 10-9S if no one can use them? Why not just put them on the approach plate in the first place like everyone else? Could it simply be a typo by Jeppesen (I doubt this, because the exact same conflict exists for RWY 02L)? Thanks for any answers anyone can provide.
My google-fu was only able to come up with this alert from Jeppesen - dated 2011 and referencing French Airports. Although, if what applies in France also applies in China, then the 10-9S page could be considered accurate.....
http://ww1.jeppesen.com/documents/a...hart-alert/EUOPS/Chart_Alert_France_10_9S.pdf
Again, any thoughts/criticisms/floggings are appreciated.
I recently stumbled upon the following scenario at work. We were on the arrival into Chongqing, PRC when RVR for the approach (RWY 02R) dropped below 600 meters. The approach plate lists 720 meters as the required RVR. However, included in our Jeppesen plates was a "10-9S" page that lists minimums for the same approach as 550 meters. I told the captain I would be fine with shooting the approach at 550 meters (as I was not too enthusiastic about diverting to Chengdu at 0300 local time) but he was hesitant. He didn't want to do it, and kept accusing me of looking at takeoff minimums or something. Anyway, it turned out to be a moot point because RVR dropped all the way to 400m, we held for about 30 minutes; then it improved all the way up to 1000m and we landed uneventfully.
I was wondering if anyone could clarify the significance of the 10-9S page. Why would there be two seperate set of minimums listed for the same approach? It's very possible that I'm missing an obvious note somewhere; if so please point it out and I'll go back to my corner. The dates on both plates are identical. Why bother to make seperate minimums and list them in the 10-9S if no one can use them? Why not just put them on the approach plate in the first place like everyone else? Could it simply be a typo by Jeppesen (I doubt this, because the exact same conflict exists for RWY 02L)? Thanks for any answers anyone can provide.
My google-fu was only able to come up with this alert from Jeppesen - dated 2011 and referencing French Airports. Although, if what applies in France also applies in China, then the 10-9S page could be considered accurate.....
http://ww1.jeppesen.com/documents/a...hart-alert/EUOPS/Chart_Alert_France_10_9S.pdf
Again, any thoughts/criticisms/floggings are appreciated.