# Anyone listen to Live ATC Feeds

#### KT430

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I have been listening to the live ATC feeds, for some time now, and still do not know what "delete speed restricions" means. Does anyone know what this means? I have an idea, but I don't know if I'm right.

If they are on the STAR then it means they can fly there own speeds instead of published. If they were instructed to slow or speed up it means those instructions are now lifted from the pilot.

Thanks for the information. When they refer to the runway (i,e 34L or 16R ) what are they refering to? and also, when they same something like " following a heavy 767," or something with the word "heavy" in it, what are they refering to?

If they are on the STAR then it means they can fly there own speeds instead of published. If they were instructed to slow or speed up it means those instructions are now lifted from the pilot.

You just confused me!!:drool:

On the STAR below look in the middle top middle of the page. You see a three speeds 280,250,210 all to be flown at different intersections. If the controller does not have anyone in front of an airplane, "delete the speeds". It allows the pilot to go as fast as he wants. Gets him home fast and off your screen faster as a controller.

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0905/06039GLENROSE.PDF

Thanks for the information. When they refer to the runway (i,e 34L or 16R ) what are they refering to? and also, when they same something like " following a heavy 767," or something with the word "heavy" in it, what are they refering to?

34 left or 34 right refers to the runway designator. Each runway is labeled for their magentic heading...34 would be a magnetic heading of 340 degrees. To approach from the opposite end, I believe you would be approaching Runway 16L or 16R for a magnetic heading of 160 degrees. They mention if an aircraft is heavy so that the following plane knows to watch for excess weight turbulence that would not be as extreme if they were following a small or large aircraft.

Awesome; as I sit waiting for another PUBNAT to open up, I thought I would try to learn as much as I can.

Specifically heavy refers to any airplane capable of a takeoff weight of 255,000 pounds regardless of if they do weigh that much at the time.

I just can't wait for "Cessna 999XX, _______ Tower, traffic on a two mile final Super Airbus three eighty, do you have it in sight?" "Roger, in sight, 9XX" "Cessna niner x-ray x-ray, maintain visual separation from that traffic, runway two niner right, cleared for the option, caution wake turbulence arrived and departed Super Airbus Three Eighty"

I call in my Diamond Eclipse (a small GA plane, if you're not familiar) as Heavy once in a while just to see if the controllers are paying attention.

I call in my Diamond Eclipse (a small GA plane, if you're not familiar) as Heavy once in a while just to see if the controllers are paying attention.

:yup::yup:I love it

I just can't wait for "Cessna 999XX, _______ Tower, traffic on a two mile final Super Airbus three eighty, do you have it in sight?" "Roger, in sight, 9XX" "Cessna niner x-ray x-ray, maintain visual separation from that traffic, runway two niner right, cleared for the option, caution wake turbulence arrived and departed Super Airbus Three Eighty"

What exactly does this mean. In simple terms.

What exactly does this mean. In simple terms.

I'm pretty sure it means that there is a big ass airbus that the little cessna needs to keep his eyes on...it appears that he's taking off and departing the airport and you need to be aware of the possibility of wake turbulance when touching down.

How did I do? I didn't see that question on the AT-Sat but I tried putting 2 + 2 together.

They mention if an aircraft is heavy so that the following plane knows to watch for excess weight turbulence that would not be as extreme if they were following a small or large aircraft.
please elaborate on this term as it is foreign to me. what i belive you are trying to refer to is WAKE turbulence, which is produced by wingtip vorticies, but will not begin to occur till the aircraft lifts off. on the ground, a similar phenomenon occurs and is called either prop wash, or jet wash i belive. basically small planes ( I.E. cessna or cherokee) shouldnt get too close to large/heavy (MD-80, B747 ect) planes to avoid the risk of being flipped over by the air blowing from the larger airplanes engines.

What exactly does this mean. In simple terms.
it means the tower tells guy A (cessna) about traffic which is about to land. and to not get too close to him. the term "maintain visual seperation" means YOU (as the pilot) are responsible for staying seperated from the other aircraft.

I'm pretty sure it means that there is a big ass airbus that the little cessna needs to keep his eyes on...it appears that he's taking off and departing the airport and you need to be aware of the possibility of wake turbulance when touching down.

How did I do? I didn't see that question on the AT-Sat but I tried putting 2 + 2 together.

You did really well, what I say is basically what yourself and thesoonerkid said. Basically, at the airport that I work at, we actually have jetliners doing what is called a touch and go, where they fly in, the wheels touch and then lift back off. Cessnas do it all the time, and we have to tell the little Cessna to maintain visual separation so it doesn't get blown away, and if it does, it is the pilot's fault. And for those that don't know, the A380, is a double decker "jumbo" jet, it is bigger than a 747, and I think it is actually bigger than a C-5. I like to refer to the A380 as a BAA, I'll let you think of was that stands for.

please elaborate on this term as it is foreign to me. what i belive you are trying to refer to is WAKE turbulence, which is produced by wingtip vorticies, but will not begin to occur till the aircraft lifts off. on the ground, a similar phenomenon occurs and is called either prop wash, or jet wash i belive. basically small planes ( I.E. cessna or cherokee) shouldnt get too close to large/heavy (MD-80, B747 ect) planes to avoid the risk of being flipped over by the air blowing from the larger airplanes engines.

Yes, wake turbulence. Good lookin' out.

Wake turbulence is also present before the Heavy lands, not just when it takes off. There is much more to wake turbulence than just being "flipped over". It can also cause a problem when taking off or landing as the rocking of a small plane, while not enough to flip it over, could cause loss of control and/or lift.

it means the tower tells guy A (cessna) about traffic which is about to land. and to not get too close to him. the term "maintain visual seperation" means YOU (as the pilot) are responsible for staying seperated from the other aircraft.

Please elaborate on this term as it is foreign to me.

I'm just saying...

Im listening to Live ATC right now! just thaught i would put that out there!

Please elaborate on this term as it is foreign to me.

I'm just saying...

its part of next gen. you havent heard of it??

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