Anyone interested in a 2006 Cessna 182 Turbo, G1000, SVT for hourly rent at VNY ???

Would you fly this airplane?

  • Yes, it's a very nice plane

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • No, to costly

    Votes: 11 39.3%
  • No, I don't live close to VNY

    Votes: 8 28.6%
  • No, I am not into Cessna 182 airplanes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    28
The archer is a leaseback so that how the costs is kept lower. The CTLS that is $80 is rented by a dealer for CTLS and he sells the rental after so many hours than brings in another. Plus we owe the fuel farm and Maintence shop so that keeps costs down some.

the hanger is $900 per month, insurance is $700 per month, fuel is $6.00 per gal for 100LL... yea costs are always different... but we are VFR 99% of the year.... can go blue whale watching in the oceans, go the mountains, the desert, the snow, lakes, city... so many places to visit. So you get what you pay for.
 
which school? how old is the RG? Its hard to compare so many apples to the oranges to the pears to the millions of different fruit out there. I just see the operating costs, fuel, hanger cost, insurance, and TBO time, and I just break it down per hour. I am not inflating it at all, or factoring in the cost to buy the airplane or the taxes (1% annual property tax, or 9% sales tax when I buy it)

Its a clean '84 in SZP with a GNS430W, KX155, DME no A/P. It'll haul 1300lbs at @ 150KTAS burning 12gph... I'm sure your math is correct. VNY is not a cheap place to keep small airplane. Not to get you side tracked or anything but I have a fair amount of time in the same model 182 you plan to buy and the RG. The late model 182 RG is a much better airplane. Cheaper to buy and a lot more utility and speed. The 182T only shines when you get it up into the teens. The problem is, it takes forever to climb there and you'll need O2. If you're spending most of your time below 10K the 182RG is the way to go. You could buy a used 182RG, do paint, interior, and G600 or Aspen avionics for less than that 182T.

Just my .02
 
I don't think $230 is all that bad of a price in SoCal, place I used to rent from had a lesser equipped (non SVT) for $215/hr, another place around here is charing $235. A few more are $245 without a block discount. Nice airplane, wish I had the money to rent it consistently.
 
I am thinking about getting one of these beautiful planes, but I would like to share the experience with a few highly qualified pilots. I am NOT asking for people to buy into the share, just to fly it and pay for the operating cost. I will pay for it myself, get it hangered, insure it, and take care of all the maintenance.

So I was thinking that fair price would be around $230 wet time and keep it at VNY, Van Nuys Airport.

Here is a link to the airplane...

http://www.vanbortel.com/N2199D/N2199D.html

I welcome all opinions, constructive criticism, and any other crazy ideas.

Thanks!
Wrong number of engines for >$200 an hour.

(Oh, and I'm Camarillo-based, and I can fly a 182T at "home" for this rate an hour anyway, so no.)
 
I guess east coast is much cheaper to rent just talked to guy at the flight school I used to teach at and the same 182 is 174/hr wet. Must be because a hanger is only 150ish a month
 
I'm thinking about the same deal, except with a real airplane. I'll do a Cessna 185, nice and particularly low time (around 2,500 hrs). For qualified pilots I'll let you fly it for say...$250 per hour. It will outperform the 182 and is much cooler, plus you get to hang out with me sometimes. Who's in?

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I'm thinking about the same deal, except with a real airplane. I'll do a Cessna 185, nice and particularly low time (around 2,500 hrs). For qualified pilots I'll let you fly it for say...$250 per hour. It will outperform the 182 and is much cooler, plus you get to hang out with me sometimes. Who's in?

Are you willing to move near the San Fernando Valley? :)
 
anyone have any more advice? what if I lowered the wet rate? What does everyone think is reasonable? I want people to fly it, but I also need to factor in my costs. I don't mind paying for stuff of course, but I can't give hours away for free. Input would be much appreciated.

Thanks!
 
UPDATE-----------------------

okay, so I am thinking of getting a non-turbo 182 for many reasons....

1. turbo is 17 gph, non turbo is 13 gph
2. turbo costs more to maintain
3. turbo requires more specialized training
4. turbo really isnt that necessary for most flights
5. not that big of a demand for turbo

now the question is... is SVT really that great and worth the cost?

Now this is where I need everyone's opinions....

Also, if I go with a non-turbo, without SVT, I bet I could get the hourly wet time down well below $200 per hour, so I assume that would be ideal for more people to fly it. What do you think?

I want to get a plane that a lot of people would be willing and able to fly

What you do thnk would be the most desireable airplane to rent? Speed versus useful load versus fuel burn versus avonics

whats the best combination?
 
I personally was interested in the turbo for the flights I would take. If you go with an NA I am out, but I bet most others would be more interested. SVT is probably not worth the cost; at least, I know I would prefer not to pay for it.
 
I saw a fairly nice SR22 (~2000TT since new or so, already overhauled) for like $120k on trade a plane the other day. Still got 10,000 hours before you hit the life limit there.
 
okay, so i am getting a nonturbo g1000 cessna 182 for about $250,000. will be hangered at VNY. anyone want to fly it with me?
 
I'm thinking about the same deal, except with a real airplane. I'll do a Cessna 185, nice and particularly low time (around 2,500 hrs). For qualified pilots I'll let you fly it for say...$250 per hour. It will outperform the 182 and is much cooler, plus you get to hang out with me sometimes. Who's in?

Bring it to the bay area and I'm in!

-Fox
 
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