Anyone interested in a 2006 Cessna 182 Turbo, G1000, SVT for hourly rent at VNY ???

Would you fly this airplane?

  • Yes, it's a very nice plane

    Votes: 9 32.1%

  • No, to costly

    Votes: 11 39.3%

  • No, I don't live close to VNY

    Votes: 8 28.6%

  • No, I am not into Cessna 182 airplanes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    28
spikethebest

spikethebest

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I am thinking about getting one of these beautiful planes, but I would like to share the experience with a few highly qualified pilots. I am NOT asking for people to buy into the share, just to fly it and pay for the operating cost. I will pay for it myself, get it hangered, insure it, and take care of all the maintenance.

So I was thinking that fair price would be around $230 wet time and keep it at VNY, Van Nuys Airport.

Here is a link to the airplane...

http://www.vanbortel.com/N2199D/N2199D.html

I welcome all opinions, constructive criticism, and any other crazy ideas.

Thanks!
 
Looks real sweet but the price might be on the high end. What is the going rate for a 172 out that way? I think you would need to be within $50 of a similarly equipped SkyHawk so get enough demand. I'm a member of a club that has a couple of Bonanzas that are just shy of $200, they are quite a bit faster but also older.

I voted no because I live in Dallas.
 
I think it's great that you want to share. I recommend you look into one of the limited rental policies that will let you rent to up to 4-5 named qualified pilots, they are muuuuuuuuch cheaper than full commercial coverage normally required if you rent to anyone. I know Starr underwrites a policy like this (I used to use them). However, dont do any dual instruction, they will not cover that.
 
I haven't flew GA in a while and when I did it was east coast.. But 230!?!! I think my multi students were paying that per hour. Just seems steep but could be a Cali thing
 
I'd love to be able to fly it... It's just way above what I'm capable of paying for. Just as I'd like to fly a cirrus, that is also too expensive.
 
Very nice plane!! Yes it is a bit on the steeper end, but I can see how the costs would add up, especially in Southern California.

What are you considering, "highly qualified pilots"?
 
The local school here gets $209 for a non-turbo G1000 182. For $230 you can get in a twin or Bonanza most places.
 
172 is $180/hr after taxes here, and that's an OG one, almost $200/hr for an S model with NAV.

Of course that's Canadian monopoly money, but the dollars are at par.
 
Sorry, short answer is, move VNY over to the east coast, and a few degrees north and I am IN
 
If I were a little closer to VNY (and makin a little more $) I'd totally be game! I'd say the price is definitely in the ballpark and not unreasonable. The 172SP-G1000's at the flight school I part-time at are $174. And I know for a fact we don't make more than about $10 profit on that. Thanks for posting!
 
Thanks everyone for your replies.... I love reading opinions from all around the world, and what other places are offering. I want to get a very good plane, and offer it at the most reasonable of prices. I am not trying to get rich off this plane, just want to make the ownership affordable and manageble. I do not want to reinvent the wheel, so i want to learn from everyone elses experiences and lessons learned.

Thanks!
 
That does seem a little high... At the school we have a nice 182RG that rents for $177 wet. Granted, you probably have higher overhead out at VNY. I see you're in Valencia, have you thought about WHP or SZP? As far as rentals go, your biggest competition in the price range will probably be the SR20. But with only a few renters you could sell the exclusivity... That's worth a lot to some. One downside to not having the pilots buy shares, is that it operates more like a revolving door. It will make scheduling more difficult and Pilots will come and go. You'll need a CFI or two who you can call to handle pilot quality control for Type/VFR/IFR/G1000 checkouts. I could help you out with that, feel free to PM me.
 
Yes I am looking for some reliable CFIs to help me check people out, and I have a few people that want to get their IFR rating with it. This airplane will helpe people get ratings, employ CFIs, and be a whole lotta fun!!!

I sent you a PM, and anyone else with ideas, or desires to be a CFI to help with checkouts... PM me. Thanks!
 
TwoTwoLeft said:
That does seem a little high... At the school we have a nice 182RG that rents for $177 wet. Granted, you probably have higher overhead out at VNY. I see you're in Valencia, have you thought about WHP or SZP? As far as rentals go, your biggest competition in the price range will probably be the SR20. But with only a few renters you could sell the exclusivity... That's worth a lot to some. One downside to not having the pilots buy shares, is that it operates more like a revolving door. It will make scheduling more difficult and Pilots will come and go. You'll need a CFI or two who you can call to handle pilot quality control for Type/VFR/IFR/G1000 checkouts. I could help you out with that, feel free to PM me.
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which school? how old is the RG? Its hard to compare so many apples to the oranges to the pears to the millions of different fruit out there. I just see the operating costs, fuel, hanger cost, insurance, and TBO time, and I just break it down per hour. I am not inflating it at all, or factoring in the cost to buy the airplane or the taxes (1% annual property tax, or 9% sales tax when I buy it)
 
It always amazes me how expensive renting is in other parts of the country. At the school I just got hired out in Ohio we have a 1999 archer decked out with two 430s autopilot leather seats etc for $120 a hour. There is another school not too far from here that has a 182RG with 430 and autopilot for $150 a hour wet. Another school has a new CTLS for $80 wet. I thought those prices were high until I started hearing prices in other parts the country.
 
Operating a rental is insanely expensive, I honestly have no idea how most flight schools can offer some prices I see, but then again, that's probably why so many go out of business every few years.
 
rframe said:
Operating a rental is insanely expensive, I honestly have no idea how most flight schools can offer some prices I see, but then again, that's probably why so many go out of business every few years.
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The archer is a leaseback so that how the costs is kept lower. The CTLS that is $80 is rented by a dealer for CTLS and he sells the rental after so many hours than brings in another. Plus we owe the fuel farm and Maintence shop so that keeps costs down some.
 
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