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Roger, Roger
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A JPI EDM 930? I'm working on an install of one at work and it looks pretty friggin' sweet.
R
Roger, Roger
Guest
Does it generally work pretty good? I'm paranoid that we're going to boot it up the first time and have something wrong and spend 2 days troubleshooting.My boss has one on his 210. As far as I know, he really likes it.
Also, what EFIS is that that he has in there? The plane I'm working on has the G600, even more friggin' sweet...
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That's a pretty pimped out 210; must be a FX bird!
And in case you were wondering:
Rudabega
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Are there more options to it? Other than rpm and manifold I don't see anything it is showing that a JPI 711 can't do for a fraction of the dash space and price.
Looks cool though.
Not a fan of the Aspen, we had one in a 172, it is not easy to read from the right seat. Glare gets to be as bad as that picture and it is worthless. Pretty lame to have a expensive toy like that but glare is so bad you have to get your heading off the mag compass.
Looks cool though.
Not a fan of the Aspen, we had one in a 172, it is not easy to read from the right seat. Glare gets to be as bad as that picture and it is worthless. Pretty lame to have a expensive toy like that but glare is so bad you have to get your heading off the mag compass.
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Roger, Roger
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It does everything. Oil temp, oil pressure, fuel quantity, flow, and pressure, 6 point EGT and CHT, communicates with G530 for fuel remaining at waypoint, and it's incredibly shiny.
PGT
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As far as I know, it's he's had no trouble with it. In fact, he's always in awe about how accurate the fuel gauges are on it.
The PFD is the Aspen EFD 1000. That on the other hand I know he's had some trouble with, and had to send it back to get re-calibrated. He's said if he did it again he would go with a G500 instead of the Aspen.
What are you putting your avionics into?
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Roger, Roger
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182RG.
Rudabega
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JPI 711 does all of that except the shiny part. Still, it would be nice to not cycle to get your information. I wonder what the price difference is though. If you get a chance plug in and pull the information off of it for your entire flight, you will learn quite a bit about your flying style and where you can improve by looking at the charts. Interesting stuff, most any A&P can do this for you. Could also be used to tattle on you if you push the plane to hard.
Rudabega
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I like the Aspen, glare isn't nearly that bad from the left seat
Based on your 'CFI soon' sig I suspect you will change your mind soon. I will never take a student into the clouds in the Aspen plane. That sure is a shame for my students. I forgot to mention the VSI is so tiny that with 20-20 vision I can't read it very well from the right seat. This is in a 172 so a 182 or greater will give you even more problems.
The 'ball' is part of the attitude indicator and not obvious to someone who has never used the unit before, once you establish how it works it is sloppy at best, it takes far to long to boot up. You will confuse the ball for a bar that comes out and tells you you are uncoordinated when you first start out. Blah blah blah, the aspen is a user unfriendly POS.
The only place a aspen would truely shine is when you are in the left seat, VFR and looking out the window.
KSCessnaDriver
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Isn't the "ball" in the exact same place in every one of the glass panel PFD's? The G1000, Avidyne, Aspen and even the experimental Dynon units all had the inclinometer up at the top, under the bank angle pointer. I will agree with your VSI point, it is really small on the Aspen setup.
Rudabega
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I have only used the G1000 and Aspen, yes the position is the same. The G1000 is much more friendly for someone who just sits down for the first time. You second guess the ball on the the Aspen, kick the rudder in flight and the ball barely moves. A primary students eyes will automatically move down to the bar showing the coordiantion and the student will hit the wrong rudder every time. As your student flails about in the sky you can't help but feel sorry for them. They get the hang of it in time.
I suppose what I am referring to it the graphical interface not having the subtle hints as to what everything is like the G1000 does.
I should add that part of my disposition for the aspen is that I was teaching primary and instrument students with this plane, hard to explain how a rectangle is the ball to someone with 3 hours.
Just my opinion.
I suppose what I am referring to it the graphical interface not having the subtle hints as to what everything is like the G1000 does.
I should add that part of my disposition for the aspen is that I was teaching primary and instrument students with this plane, hard to explain how a rectangle is the ball to someone with 3 hours.
Just my opinion.
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Roger, Roger
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Is the JPI 711 approved to replace all the primary instrumentation? I would imagine not, if you have to cycle to see everything. With this setup there does not need to be a single analog engine gauge on the panel. Combined with the G500, it's almost as good as a G1000 system.
Also, I put power on it for the first time yesterday. Here are some pictures:
Prior to application of electricity:
Oops, flash
My baby. I did all the work except the new panel that it's mounted in and some of the sensor installation. In other words, I did a LOT of wiring.
Engine.
All of the shiny-ness powered up. It's still got a ways to go, the avionics shop on the field did the G500/530 install and some of that isn't talking with itself like it's supposed to, but it's getting there
