Any UPS pilots?

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I do not post on this board too much, but I do check it out often and I was wondering if there were any UPS pilots on this board. If there are any I have a few questions I would like to ask them.
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I have many career goals, but at the top is either A) A nice Corporate Job or B) UPS or FedEx.

In your opinion, what would be the best way for me to get with UPS?

Right now I am a flight instructor and I should be near 1000 hours in a year with 250 multi. I would love to try find a job where I could start to build turbine time and then try to move up that way. Or should I got to a regional and hope for an upgrade to build Turbine PIC?

Who knows, but any insight would be helpful?

Thanks Don
 
How do you like UPS? Is commuting at all possible the first year? or would it be best to move to SDF? Not that it matters, unless I ever get an interview, but how long would it take to be based in ONT? What are the chances of even getting an interview if I don't know any pilots there? Any word on how long hiring will continue, or is it still a big secret how many are going to get hired? I am 25 and been a CRJ ca for a year and UPS has always been my dream job, I have an app in but I am right at 1000pic so there are tons of people out there with more time. Would getting a PT job throwing boxes help get on at all? I would definetly throw boxes on my days off it it got me a job interview. Well thanks ahead of time, if you have any tips I am all ears.
Thanks alot,
Nick
 
"In your opinion, what would be the best way for me to get with UPS?"

A degree, 1000 PIC turbine, and at least one recommendation from a UPS pilot is a minimum. More PIC turbine, heavy time, check airman, multiple recommendations, or a recommendation from a management pilot, are things that are even better. A lot of luck is most important.
 
"How do you like UPS?"

There are some things I like and some things I don't like. I can't be real honest about the things I don't like. It's a steady paycheck and a stable environment. Get to fly big jets. Because I'm senior, my schedules are pretty good.

"Is commuting at all possible the first year?"

Commuting is always possible. When I was back in SDF for two months going through 757 school there were guys going all the way home to the west coast on two days off. Not worth it to me. Reserve lines are 8 on, 6 off, or 16 on, 12 off.

"Not that it matters, unless I ever get an interview, but how long would it take to be based in ONT?"

ONT is a senior base. The junior guy there was hired 6/01 and is 2387 out of 2500ish. If we had steady hiring, I'd say it would take a couple of years to get ONT.

"What are the chances of even getting an interview if I don't know any pilots there?"

I'll say zero.

"Any word on how long hiring will continue, or is it still a big secret how many are going to get hired?"

Big secret. I'll just say that hiring will be minimal (which is a lot better than the not at all we've had for a long time). I believe we will continue to hire next year...maybe a couple hundred at the most. When the contract is settled and if we get the changes in scheduling we need, I think there will be more hiring.

"Would getting a PT job throwing boxes help get on at all?"

I don't think so.

You'd be better off moving to SDF (I'm serious) and getting to know a UPS management pilot.
 
Well if you know of any senior management pilots out there looking for a friend, tell them to hit me up.
Thanks for all the answers, I'll just keep at it and one day hopefully get the call.
 
I know that Fedex and UPS do lots of night flying but is there any day flying.And what kind of schedule do international routes have.Thanks
 
I'd guess we have 25% day flying. They are usually 11 hour days with 6am shows, but it's day flying. International is usally long blocks. The best lines are 12 on, 18 off, but they often build in a couple days of forced overtime at straight pay. Sometimes, they break up the international lines into a week on, week off, rotation. These aren't quite as senior.
 
Hi, UPS has a daily flight into Winnipeg (CYWG) usually a B757. Have you ever flown this route? If you have, can you please tell me where it goes to? How do you like Winnipeg, especially in the winter and it is -35C.

Thanks
 
I don't do Winnipeg as that trip is flown with pilots from the Louisville international domicle. That plane would go to Louisville but might make a stop somewhere else on the way...I'm not sure. I'm in the Ontario, CA domicle and YVR is the only Canadian trip we have in ONT. I used to a lot of Calgary flying back in the day. Really liked it. Didn't mind the cold weather as the hotel had a two hot tubs and a waterslide. Never been to Winnipeg before. Also, did a lot of Vancouver flying back when I was on the 727.
 
DE727UPS,

I am an flgiht instructor in Buffalo NY. My goal is to get to UPS. I have 8 years of college and am a Physician Assistant.

Is it easier for advanced degree pilots to get in?

Also, i am looking at an Occupational Health job in JAX with UPS. Does a job with UPS help to get a flying job with them?
 
Sorry dude, but I'm gonna say no and no.

1000 PIC turbine and a recommendation from a line pilot....that's what you need.

Anything more than a 4 year degree is overkill. Working for the company with the hope of "transfering" into the air group as a pilot....just doesn't happen.
 
I love flying. I like medicine but I really want to fly for a living. Leaving a PA job shows how much I love to fly, because if it was about money i would stay where i am.
 
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I love flying. I like medicine but I really want to fly for a living. Leaving a PA job shows how much I love to fly, because if it was about money i would stay where i am.

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Stay where you are, get rich, and buy a jet!
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I love flying. I like medicine but I really want to fly for a living. Leaving a PA job shows how much I love to fly, because if it was about money i would stay where i am.


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I'm sure you originally became a PA because of the love of medicine or helping people or something along those lines. After a point the reality and problems of the job replaced your idealistic viewpoint and it probably just became another job over time. Aviation is a lot like that only under a different title.

As Don said, anything over a 4 yr degree is overkill. Your competition are currently the folks with thousands of PIC turbine hours from the military, 121 or 135 backgrounds. UPS puts HEAVY emphasis on letters of recommendation from current employees (the higher up the food chain the better). Right now, UPS has 10's of thousands of qualified applicants to choose from and competition is fierce for the few slots available. Some new hires, I've noticed, are coming from United, USAir and Atlas with 10-15 years at those airlines.

My advice, stay in medicine. The problems associated with being an airline pilot nowadays will quickly tarnish any love you may think you have for it and you'll regret leaving a PA position.
 
Is it me or do you all regret your pilot jobs? When I started medicine, i liked it but not much. I was going to quit after my bachelors but my parents at that point pushed me to stay in. I wanted to pursue a pilot career then. 7 years later i regret not quitting and becoming a pilot. Now i am 29 and trying to build time to go to a regional and hopefully 1 day, go with air tran or UPS or Fed Ex. If I do not do it, I know I will wake up 60 years old and regret it forever!
 
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