I haven't seen any evidence or information presented here to suggest anr makes tinnitus worse. Just a couple well maybes.But, how do you know it just isn't getting worse with age? I know mine did before I started flying professionally. (just playing devil's advocate)
I went to an audiologist associated with an ENT, after the test the ENT said there's no way that the NC headsets were the culprit and that he could sell me hearing aids with NC that could cancel the tinnitus once we found the correct frequencies. That's when I got up and left. But, has anyone heard of this before?
First time I've heard anyone say that, interesting. I'm glad this thread was started, perhaps some new info will come out!
There is no sound wave with ANR. The ANR cancels the wave with a wave of it's own 180 degrees out. The result is no wave at all, or as close as we can get to that at the moment.
Tinnitus is usually driven by sonic fatigue, high frequency noise, especially that beyond the hearing spectrum carries a lot more energy and generally makes the symptoms worse.I haven't seen any evidence or information presented here to suggest anr makes tinnitus worse. Just a couple well maybes.
There's no wave at all.
It produces the same wave as is coming in, at the same amplitude but 180 degrees out of phase. This cancels or destroys the other wave resulting in no wave at all.
Look at the picture. It's as simple as +10 - 10 = 0.
Tinnitus sucks...my next door neighbor has it. Sorry to hear.I am convinced that ANR headsets caused my tinnitus. Back in 1994, Bose came out with their original ANR headsets. I was very excited and got an early set. I used them for a flight from Michigan to Colorado and back in my Cessna 310. Following that trip, my ears rang for the following two years. I called Bose and met with hearing specialists. Their conclusion was that I had tinnitus. I knew it was the headsets that caused my condition. It was interesting that Bose took those headsets off the market for one year and then relaunched them as new and improved. My further research lead me to talk to a sound engineer from Koss (the speaker company). He told me that although the sound waves are cancelled, there is still "sound pressure". He calculated that my ears were being blasted with over 125db sound pressure that I could not hear. And, after the 12 hour round trip flight my ears had taken a beating. I have chosen to stick with with my passive headsets.
Don't know how your pax would feel about it, but there's some helmets that have come down in price and include a sun visor. Lightspeed, Bose or DC noise canceling included... and I think you can get just the helmet and use the headset you currently have.I’ve been running the David Clark One X for a while now, they have quite a bit of passive reduction as well as ANR. But they do only work best with sunglasses above the ear cups and no hat. I have used A20s in the same situation and definitely felt more fatigued at the end of the day. Basically zero passive reduction.
I'm toying with the idea since the #1 killer in an accident isn't the crash itself so much, but the head trauma.
Fear of enforcement > Fear of crashing. Not sure why, but this is real sometimes.My only fatality was from blunt force trauma to the head when his head slammed into the panel. Had his waist belt on but not the shoulder strap (3 point seatbelt). Had he had the shoulder strap he probably would have lived with cuts and bruises.
Then again he would probably have made the runway had he just declared emergency instead of being all vague. And he wouldn’t have had an emergency at all if he hadn’t run out of gas 50 miles before his destination.
If you do off-airport stuff still, you 100% need a helmet. I’ve seen a pretty nifty FAA presentation on it by a guy who is both an aerospace engineer for the feds and owns and flies a Cub.Don't know how your pax would feel about it, but there's some helmets that have come down in price and include a sun visor. Lightspeed, Bose or DC noise canceling included... and I think you can get just the helmet and use the headset you currently have.
I'm toying with the idea since the #1 killer in an accident isn't the crash itself so much, but the head trauma.
Ya, that's why there has been a big push to even put in a shoulder belt or 4/5 point harness in vintage stuff.My only fatality was from blunt force trauma to the head when his head slammed into the panel. Had his waist belt on but not the shoulder strap (3 point seatbelt). Had he had the shoulder strap he probably would have lived with cuts and bruises.
Then again he would probably have made the runway had he just declared emergency instead of being all vague. And he wouldn’t have had an emergency at all if he hadn’t run out of gas 50 miles before his destination.
I'll be on floats next year when the airplane gets flying. I have shoulder harnesses, but not the nice 5 points like we have in the jet, just 3. Would have required some significant modification to the fuselage to strap them to something that wouldn't just bend with those forces. I imagine it's just as important since hitting your head, becoming unconscious AND being underwater would be rather fatal.If you do off-airport stuff still, you 100% need a helmet. I’ve seen a pretty nifty FAA presentation on it by a guy who is both an aerospace engineer for the feds and owns and flies a Cub.