jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Day off, which means I'm cleaning, doing dishes and trolling JC.
And the horse was battered. I doubt you can put a horse in imminent apprehension of being battered.
Another "which regional should I choose" thread....
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Day off, which means I'm cleaning, doing dishes and trolling JC.
And the horse was battered. I doubt you can put a horse in imminent apprehension of being battered.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Go watch a horse race. A lot of times the jockey just has to lift their crop up and the horse picks up the pace. They know what's coming.
OK, honest question. Is PSA really overstaffed right now for the aircraft that they currently have? How many pilots do they really have right now?
It looks like PSA took delivery of their 12th 900 in the last day or two, which brings their total up to 59. By Dec 31, 2015, they expect to have 99 aircraft on property. From my understanding, there are currently over 800 pilots in the system, with 2 classes per month. Can anyone confirm these numbers?
It looks like PSA took delivery of their 12th 900 in the last day or two, which brings their total up to 59. By Dec 31, 2015, they expect to have 99 aircraft on property. From my understanding, there are currently over 800 pilots in the system, with 2 classes per month. Can anyone confirm these numbers?
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
Sounds about right. Currently running 2 classes p/month. I do however think the attrition rate for the classes is a little higher than normal right now.
So, currently there are 800 pilots and 58 aircraft? Seems like a lot. I understand that they are staffing up, and I salute them for staffing up as quickly as they are to prevent shortages, but it seems like this would lead to long receive times in the short term. Any thoughts?
I am not saying anything bad about PSA, I think it is one of the better ones to work at right now. Just curious what it is going to look like for the next year.
I am not saying anything bad about PSA, I think it is one of the better ones to work at right now. Just curious what it is going to look like for the next year.
CLTflyer
Well-Known Member
Last list I saw in the crew room had over 900. Granted probably 100+ are in training status. I think 13 on property now, but delivery jumps to 3 a month starting Jan. Hiring is supposed to continue at 2 classes of 20-30 a month, with 2 upgrade classes a month is the current word.
PDT has a lot of guys commuting out of Florida right now. Like others have said I've heard from those guys it can be a pain to get out at times.
Both PDT and PSA are experiencing a lot of growth, two of my friends have been there less than a year and have passed up the captain up grade to keep the lines they like.
PDT has a cool pilot group and you probably will be able to get some seniority pretty fast if things go as planed.
There are rumors of bases changing soon with the rumors of the 45 coming online sometime soon.
Good Luck, it's nice to be wanted.
Both PDT and PSA are experiencing a lot of growth, two of my friends have been there less than a year and have passed up the captain up grade to keep the lines they like.
PDT has a cool pilot group and you probably will be able to get some seniority pretty fast if things go as planed.
There are rumors of bases changing soon with the rumors of the 45 coming online sometime soon.
Good Luck, it's nice to be wanted.
Ryan110175
Well-Known Member
I'm in a similar situation. I've got offers from SkyWest and PSA, and trying to decide on which one to go to.
SkyWest has been on the top of my list for a while. They're a great company and have bases and routes where I want to live. I live in Phoenix now, and I want to either stay here or be based back in DEN where I lived for a long time. They're also a pretty stable company with good second year pay. The downside is that it'd take 4-5 years to upgrade minimum and due to my advanced age of 39 I'm being tempted to take the PSA offer.
During the PSA interview they told me the most junior upgrade was March 2014 hire. It's very tempting to chase that carrot. The drawback is that I'd most likely have to move out east, which I'm not thrilled about, but IF everything goes as it is, I could get that coveted 1000TPIC and in position for a legacy in 5 years.
SkyWest has been on the top of my list for a while. They're a great company and have bases and routes where I want to live. I live in Phoenix now, and I want to either stay here or be based back in DEN where I lived for a long time. They're also a pretty stable company with good second year pay. The downside is that it'd take 4-5 years to upgrade minimum and due to my advanced age of 39 I'm being tempted to take the PSA offer.
During the PSA interview they told me the most junior upgrade was March 2014 hire. It's very tempting to chase that carrot. The drawback is that I'd most likely have to move out east, which I'm not thrilled about, but IF everything goes as it is, I could get that coveted 1000TPIC and in position for a legacy in 5 years.
flyinggreasemnky
Well-Known Member
Trans States is opening a DEN base and is a much smaller pilot group that is about to double in size. Something to consider...
Ryan110175
Well-Known Member
I've got an application submitted, but haven't heard anything back. I didn't know about the DEN base yet. That sounds interesting..
bretthullrampage
Well-Known Member
Commuting sucks. One leggers can be hard enough; with two legs you'll likely be spending your days off getting to and from work, and after 6 days away from home the last thing you want to do is fly home on your days off. At least with a one leg you can potentially bid commutable trips on both ends. If I were you Id go to PSA.
learhawkerbe400
Well-Known Member
Remember the new first come check in rules only apply to people in your status. So even if you check in 24 hours prior as a regional guy a mainline employee who checks in 30 minutes prior will still have priority.
CamYZ125
Well-Known Member
Mainline and wholly owned (PSA, PDT) are both D2 priority... so a PSA/PDT guy who checks in prior to the mainline guy will get priority (for a seat in the cabin).
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
So all I have to do is make a trip out to JAX and be there exactly 24 hours before im supposed to commute to CLT to start my trip and get my name on the list and I should be gold right?
CamYZ125
Well-Known Member
Ha. Not quite. You make a listing on the travel website, then you check-in for said listing starting 24hrs prior to the flight. Those standby's of the same priority level (D1, D2, D2r, etc) are placed in order by time of check in. Empty seats on the plane are then assigned to the standby's in that order.
So if there are seats open, and you're at or near the top of the standby list, then you're "gold". If there aren't any seats open (as is often the case these days), then you get to compete for the jumpseat. Mainline trumps regionals (even wholly owned) on mainline jumpseats.
So if there are seats open, and you're at or near the top of the standby list, then you're "gold". If there aren't any seats open (as is often the case these days), then you get to compete for the jumpseat. Mainline trumps regionals (even wholly owned) on mainline jumpseats.
learhawkerbe400
Well-Known Member
True. Forgot we were talking about wholly owneds.
Well, no.
PSA is the same status as mainline. Other than for the JS.
Edit: Looks like this has already been answered. My apologies.
Jpax
Well-Known Member
Out of curiosity, having been at CommutAir for three and a half years, what factor(s) led you to omit CommutAir from the final three? You seem interested in pay, commutability, and upgrade. Best regional pay year one, average year two, upgrade on/before year 3, regional industry's best commuter clause, and <2.5 year upgrade. Turboprop a deal breaker?
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
Not at all... I actually think turboprops are more fun than a jet to fly. I wouldn't mind spending a few years flying the Q. The ease of commuting to CLT from JAX compared to the alternatives if I worked for other airlines makes PSA very desirable for me. I'm not super concerned with an upgrade but anything less than 4 or 5 years sounds good to me (which obviously PSA provides). C5 has a good contract and an awesome commuter clause for sure, I think I'd rather just stay a little closer to home.
