Another Buy to Fly Program

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Jazzyjazz

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Good Day,

Below is a link to SIMCENTER's $33,000.00 B727 Jet First Officer program. The numbers look GREAT, especially when one considers that after training, a FO makes $45.00 an hour versus the below $20.00 an hour offered by regionals! Talk about "jump- starting" your career.

Please comment on this career option... Yes, I read some of the comments offered about similar programs... but THIS one is different, right??? (LOL).. no SHARKS please... (continues to LOL).

Jazz

http://www.simcenter.cc/phase2.html
 
Not again
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If this is a B727 FO program, does that mean you pay to cut in front of the FE?

I'm beginning to smell something...
 
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OPTION #1
Flight Engineer with First Officer Upgrade
Students enrolled in the Flight Engineer/First Officer program will complete in addition to a Jet Introduction course the complete Initial/Pilot/Flight Engineer Prt 121 Coure and receive a Flight Engineer Certificate with Turbojet Rating. After 6 months of flying(approximately 500 hours) as a Flight Engineer on the B727, they will return to school to complete the First Officer Upgrade Training. After successful completion of the Upgrade training the intern will be guaranteed an additional 500 hours as a First Officer on the B727.

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33K for 500 hrs of FE time,

Then IF and only if you pass their "upgrade training" you get another 500 hrs of FO time.

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OPTION #2
Flight Engineer
Students enrolled in the Flight Engineer/First Officer program will complete in addition to a Jet Introduction course the complete Initial/Pilot/Flight Engineer Part 121 Course and receive a Flight Engineer Certificate with Turbojet Rating. Under this program the intern is guaranteed 200 flight hours as a flight engineer only with no upgrade

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15K for a FE liscense and 200 hrs YGTBSM!

I've seen 737 types advertised for 5K.
 
Beats me, but I am uber sick of sorting through threads about PFT, SIC "Programs", headsets, and flight schools. It's getting way old. Geeeeeez....
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Besides, 500 hours of FE time is entirely useless. In fact, I'm not even sure if it's legally 'total time' because you're not flying whatsoever.
 
I wish I knew what scumbag freight operation was selling the honorable 727 right seat in this program.

This is PFJ...just like Gulfstream. It's not a good thing.
 
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Beats me, but I am uber sick of sorting through threads about PFT, SIC "Programs", headsets, and flight schools. It's getting way old. Geeeeeez....
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and the sad part is...with all of the programs poping up left and right that means that people are actualy paying for it!
 
I looked at their site some more, and found that they will train you for a 727 type for 10,600$.

Take the extra 23,000 and buy your self a POS C-150.
 
I betchya if I was able to lease an A-320 sim and called the program "Jet Blue Prep Program", I'd have a line forming at the door on tuesday morning.
 
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I betchya if I was able to lease an A-320 sim and called the program "Jet Blue Prep Program", I'd have a line forming at the door on tuesday morning.

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Maybe jetcareers should start a business? =P You could probably retire early hehe
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I betchya if I was able to lease an A-320 sim and called the program "Jet Blue Prep Program", I'd have a line forming at the door on tuesday morning.

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And you know this, Man!!!

And for good reason - while you guys are flying around the pattern or doing your 40th steep turn for the day in a 152 with a student, doing things that no airline will ever care about, I'm going to be learning about an A-320, flying for a real airline, getting real experience. After I have my 100 hours of real airline time, we'll see who the airlines hire. . .

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Lloyd, you're not right in the head, man!
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"My Jet Blue Prep brings all the boys to the yard, damn right, it's better than yours! I could teach you, but I'd have to charge!"
 
You're right- it's been just about a month exactly and here we go again......

What it doesn't say is what happens if you flunk the checkride: When I inquired into this program 2 years ago, it was only a 200-hour guarantee in either the FE or FO slot, and they charged $6000 for the FE program and $12,000 for the FO program, but there were 3 stages to it, and if you were released from the program by their choice or yours at anyone of those stages, you were refunded a partial amount of the cost, but once you went for the 121 checkride, you were fully committed to pay 100% and if you didnt' pass...well that really sucks for you and your career.

I agree this is a ripoff...
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I'm in a Claritan brain haze so this might not come out right. So excuse me in advance! This isn't targeted at you but I'm having one of those 'stream of consciousness' moments.

But it's not a matter that the candidate flew a 727 for 500 or so hours. It's really a matter of the candidate doing whatever he did in order to have a 727 operator trust, hire, train and pay him.

Kristie has about an hour of L1011-500 level-D simulator time. Now, if she ran out and got her CSMEL-I, would she have even the slightest edge over any other equally experienced job candidate without the L1011 experience? Nope!
 
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