flyeagle111
CFO
I've been hearing rumors that an Air China student overran the runway yesterday night...Can anyone confirm this??
Another 172 incident?
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FlyMan07
New Member
Several rumors are going around. Not much of a big news event, though. I think an Air China incident occurs just about everyday. The Grand Forks ATC guys work very, very hard to make sure those guys don't cause havoc in the Grand Forks traffic pattern. But as for the uncontrolled satellite airports, landing with 15+ knot tailwinds, flying incorrect traffic patterns, cutting off aircraft on short final, etc. are everyday occurrences. It's sad to say, but any accident/incident if very foreseeable.
av8or91
Well-Known Member
Cant be true because No solo Air China night flight have been approved since that last accident...unless they changed it but I haven't heard anything.
wrxpilot
New Member
Wow, reminds me of the bad old Kemper days at KLNA.
ProudPilot
Aeronautics Geek
I know someone overran the end. Not sure if it was undergrad or air china. I don't think Tokai was involved with this one. Minor scratches as far as I know. They missed C2, continued to the end, too much speed for the turn. I'll take a wild guess tower asked to "expedite" after missing C2 and they just hurried a bit too much around the turn.
This is all rumor. I saw the trucks, not the aircraft. It was about 10 minutes after sunset, so not night.
This is all rumor. I saw the trucks, not the aircraft. It was about 10 minutes after sunset, so not night.
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
Good God, how fast are you going, if your going to tip a 172 over? Like really, there is no reason to be going that fast, ever, other than on the runway for takeoff/landing.
rd757
Well-Known Member
Why are you inferring that I taxi that fast? I was giving some pointers to the crowd who is transitioning their fleet from Warrior's to 172...
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
No, I'm just asking how fast you have to taxi in a 172, in order to be worried about tipping one over? Nothing person, just amazed that someone would have to be warned about tipping a plane over while taxing.
R
Roger, Roger
Guest
Yeah, I've never found it to be an issue.
juxtapilot
Snowflake
I think it'll skid before it tips..
av8or91
Well-Known Member
One thing I have noticed is that if your taxiing fast and slightly step on a rudder it will gradually veer to one direction getting sharper and sharper thus needing more rudder in the opposite direction to correct. I can see what happened as its very easy to feel rushed to get off the runway albeit it should be done in a prompt manner.
rd757
Well-Known Member
I have no idea, I haven't been gone fast enough to tip one yet. However, I have crossed the boundary where you feel it start to body lean. Much like driving my Jeep down an on-ramp. You'll feel the body start to lean as you pick up speed, pull the turn a little tighter and over you go.
juxtapilot
Snowflake
Except your jeep doesn't have dinky little tires.. The 172 would probably skid before it tips..
juxtapilot
Snowflake
Just curious, how many Cessnas do you guys have now?
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
Sweet. I played with it today, and was willing to go up to 12 knots in the turn, and felt no tendency to roll. But, your mileage may very. I'd kinda like to know how fast you would have to go to even get it to skid, in any case.
Blip16
Well-Known Member
trust me the inside wheel gets really light at around 20kts. seen too many students try it, it doesn't skid
I've skidded 150s, stopped trying after about the second solo flight ever.
Blip16
Well-Known Member
i have seen them skid too, but if you try to take a 90 degree turn off the taxiway at 20kts, the inner wheel gets very light. i would assume at 25+ it would not be in contact with the ground anymore
UND has photos from 20yrs ago when they used to have cessna's that did flip or tip over, so it is possible!
juxtapilot
Snowflake
I'm not sure I follow... What do you mean the inner wheel becomes light?
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