ANG commissioning via OTS
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Superfly7XAF
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I'm not sure but I thought the guard used to commission through AMS and now either that's being moved to Maxwell or guard selects are being mixed in with OTS BOT classes. I'm not sure, but I thought it was changing here recently. I think Casey and Frog are guard and I think Frog just got his gold bar not long ago, they should be able to shed more light on it than me.
Getzen2
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ANG is still going through a separate course that is still AMS though I've heard it was renamed ANGOTS. They moved it to Maxwell but the course is still 6 weeks long. Rumor has it that the class size is now 125 students to make up for only three classes, but they are only running a fall, winter and spring class due to ROTC FT going on in the same area. Due to different funding, I doube highly that an ANG student would go to OTS.
mhcasey
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Exactly what he said. I'd give you a .6-.9% chance of going through regular OTS. Trust me, you don't want to anyway.
The Fez
Analog Millennial
:yeahthat: x a hundred million thousand.
frog_flyer
FredFlyer
You'd enjoy getting your crop duster's commission in 6 weeks much more than the 12 fun weeks of OTS.
You're wrong.
You want to go to OTS. It'll make you a better officer.
I mean, just look at The Fez.....
.....wait, nevermind. Bad example.
Carry on.
JPilot9
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That's what I figured. Thanks for the input.
The Fez
Analog Millennial
Nice try Mike. Where did you get your commission again?
The Fez
Analog Millennial
From a box of Fruit Loops....
I would've thought a box of Cracker Jacks, but hey, what's the difference right?
The Fez
Analog Millennial
Don't make fun of me Mr. OTS DG!
Frog flyer told me the truth!!
Hey man, only one person can occupy the second to last position in the class ranking. Just so happens that Frog Flyer was that person instead of me.
Kato
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Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
Where's he going to UPT? Doesn't that mean a guaranteed fighter?
LOL.....true enough
He's reserve though, so he doesn't have to worry bout the AD backstab rat-race there, at least.
///AMG
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Kind of on topic, kinda off, but....
Guaranteed tracks prior to any training experience are notably foreign to my service and my flight school experience. So I'm wondering how the AF picks it's jet guarantees? Yes, I know with the right amount of time and money spent you can probably make a monkey a decent tactical replacemtent pilot, but that said, I have seen folks attrite from here who actually did prove themselves in primary (which would seem to be the best indicator of future performance that we have). It seems like it would just be such a crap shoot trying to figure out who was going to do well and who wasn't. Do the ANG folks have enough $$$ to lose a guy every once in a while to attrition, or do they just not care and front the required extra training to make sure he/she gets their wings? Having been through both grading systems (MPTS and the old "above/avg/below" system), I think MPTS gives a little bit more leeway for slow learners and forgives more rookie mistakes, but I'd still guess that there are folks out there who would have trouble either way, and more specifically, regardless of how well they did on a standardized aptitude test or in college. Thoughts/comments? And this is certainly not meant to be a jab at the OP or anyone else, I'm just simply curious how it works.
Guaranteed tracks prior to any training experience are notably foreign to my service and my flight school experience. So I'm wondering how the AF picks it's jet guarantees? Yes, I know with the right amount of time and money spent you can probably make a monkey a decent tactical replacemtent pilot, but that said, I have seen folks attrite from here who actually did prove themselves in primary (which would seem to be the best indicator of future performance that we have). It seems like it would just be such a crap shoot trying to figure out who was going to do well and who wasn't. Do the ANG folks have enough $$$ to lose a guy every once in a while to attrition, or do they just not care and front the required extra training to make sure he/she gets their wings? Having been through both grading systems (MPTS and the old "above/avg/below" system), I think MPTS gives a little bit more leeway for slow learners and forgives more rookie mistakes, but I'd still guess that there are folks out there who would have trouble either way, and more specifically, regardless of how well they did on a standardized aptitude test or in college. Thoughts/comments? And this is certainly not meant to be a jab at the OP or anyone else, I'm just simply curious how it works.
There's no jet guarantee in the AD AF. There's only a guarantee for OTS that you have a chance at UPT. From there, it's all you and needs of the AF to determine where you go as an active duty guy.
ANG/AFRES.....if you're in a fighter unit (ie, already know you're going to a fighter), but you don't do well in T-37/T-6, you'll get recommended to not go that track. Saw it happen with one in the class ahead of me, who had to change Guard units because she was having trouble in T-38s. She switched to a heavy Guard unit and managed to squeak by in -38s, mainly because she was going to fly a heavy anyway. Or, if they wash out altogether, the ANG/AFRES unit needs to figure out what to do with them.
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
LOL.....true enough
He's reserve though, so he doesn't have to worry bout the AD backstab rat-race there, at least.
Valid point...but people can still make fun of the DG in his flight.
I had the poor luck to be a DG out of a recent formal flying training program I went through, and at my first IP meeting in my new squadron the CC decided that was the time to announce the achievement in front of all my new bros.
You can imagine how that one went down, heh heh. Worse even than 'stand up and tell us about yourself'!
The Fez prob was DG.....lol! He just doesn't want to admit it for this very reason!