Analyzing Pilot Pay

Taken from another thread (Skywest pay)

1999: $ 2,903.37 (ouch- 2 months no pay)
2000: $18,944.53
2001: $26,305.57 (transitioned to the jet Oct. 2001)
2002: $39,088.78 (Captain pay began Nov. 2002)
2003: $62,970.30
2004: $73,198.62 (as of today)


I have to say that this isnt bad! In comparison for everyone who is curious, here is my company's pay stats for 1-3 year reps in my industry -

Year 1 - $ 30,000 base with $35,000 in guaranteed commissions. A $1000 bonus is available each month to reps that meet or exceed forecast. Average earnings are low $70,000.

Year 2 - $30,000 base with no guaranteed commissions. Some reps make $50,000 total, some make right around $100,000. A potential $24,000 in bonus money is available. On average, a rep will earn only $6000 of that. Rep is responsible for $4600 a month in new business.

Year 3 - $30,000 base with no guaranteed commissions. By year 3, your expected to total $5600 a month in new business. Once again, some reps on the lower end earn $50,000 while the higher end reps should make $100-130,000 depending on territory.

Last year in my division (76 reps), we had 4 that earned over $250,000 and 16 that earned less than $55,000 (all of which were reps for more than 4 years).

Point being? After you make captains pay, things appear to start shaping out. The first year or two though? Ouch..
 
Cheechako said:
Alaska ANC 737-4/NG:


ANC crews are getting the ETOPS certification, so every four day trip has SEA-CUN, SEA-PVR or SEA-EWR in it as "practice" ETOPS runs (not sure if they're actually planning them as ETOPS flights, or just getting the crews used to carrying an extra newspaper for the longer flights).
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Why the ETOPS certification? You guys going to Hawaii soon?
 
Appreciate the breakdown Wheels. See. . . that commuting thing with AWAC keeps looking better, even on reserve. . . i know you disagree. heh
 
Cheechako said:
Alaska ANC 737-4/NG:

21 Lines, 38 pilots on the FO list.
Average Line: 82.25 hours
Average Days Off: 15.38
Trip Mix:
22 1-day trips
19 2-day trips
2 3-day trips
37 4-day trips
Lines include a mix of the above trips (4-day trip, days off, couple locals, days off, two day trip, etc.)
ANC crews are getting the ETOPS certification, so every four day trip has SEA-CUN, SEA-PVR or SEA-EWR in it as "practice" ETOPS runs (not sure if they're actually planning them as ETOPS flights, or just getting the crews used to carrying an extra newspaper for the longer flights).

I'm not going to go through the 253 SEA lines, but their average line is 83.19 hours. Days off looks like a high of 18, a low of 11, most 14-16. Trip mix is 1-4 days with the 2-3 day trips occuring the most.


Here's something I posted a couple years ago that gives a good picture of the regional guy's pay:

http://forums.jetcareers.com/showthread.php?p=178539#post178539
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Thanks for the info. On an average line of 82.25 hrs, how much would that credit, typically? Does that average tend to hold true at most majors?
 
Thanks for sharing that info with us about your company. When you look at the average salaries of what typical Americans are making, they shape up no different than regional airline pilot pay. First year isn't great, but 2nd year and on, including captain, is about the range of what your typical American, with a degree, will see. Some people like to focus on sales reps making $250K, or real estate agents making $200K, but as we see with your company, those people are just as rare, or more rare than a FedEx captain making $250K. Looks like roughly 5% of reps at your company make in that range, while 21% made less than $55K.

No matter what industry you look at, there will be people (select few) making large, six figure salaries, while the vast majority fall in the middle; many in fact, making less than a 5-6 year regional captain.

meritflyer said:
Taken from another thread (Skywest pay)

1999: $ 2,903.37 (ouch- 2 months no pay)
2000: $18,944.53
2001: $26,305.57 (transitioned to the jet Oct. 2001)
2002: $39,088.78 (Captain pay began Nov. 2002)
2003: $62,970.30
2004: $73,198.62 (as of today)


I have to say that this isnt bad! In comparison for everyone who is curious, here is my company's pay stats for 1-3 year reps in my industry -

Year 1 - $ 30,000 base with $35,000 in guaranteed commissions. A $1000 bonus is available each month to reps that meet or exceed forecast. Average earnings are low $70,000.

Year 2 - $30,000 base with no guaranteed commissions. Some reps make $50,000 total, some make right around $100,000. A potential $24,000 in bonus money is available. On average, a rep will earn only $6000 of that. Rep is responsible for $4600 a month in new business.

Year 3 - $30,000 base with no guaranteed commissions. By year 3, your expected to total $5600 a month in new business. Once again, some reps on the lower end earn $50,000 while the higher end reps should make $100-130,000 depending on territory.

Last year in my division (76 reps), we had 4 that earned over $250,000 and 16 that earned less than $55,000 (all of which were reps for more than 4 years).

Point being? After you make captains pay, things appear to start shaping out. The first year or two though? Ouch..
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