Amerijet On Strike!
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Maurus
The Great Gazoo
My assumption would be to show the MEC actually will give up something for a TA. Image helps with bargaining I would think. If the pilot group votes the TA down, then they would have more to work with.
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Homewrecker
Thanks for the responses, just trying to learn the nuts and bolts of it all.
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
The others have already kinda explained this, but the MEC is going to - largely - always vote to send the TA to the pilot group. So long as certain criteria are met, the MEC has done the job they've been told to do - or so they believe.
Now it's up to the pilot group to determine if this TA is something they want to work under, regardless if it made it beyond an MEC vote. The vote from the MEC wasn't a "We approved of everything in this TA, so you should too. . ." it's a "We have a TA, we think we should let you look at it now, and tell us whether you like it or not. . .if not . . .we're back to work for you"
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Homewrecker
Cool, thanks.
It's really more of a DFR (Duty of Fair Representation) issue. On some properties, the elected leadership (MEC's @ ALPA), have the right to accept a contract without membership ratification. At the IBT as far as I know, the Executive Council does not have that right. If the T/A meets the guidelines of what was being sought, it must go to the membership for a vote.
My understanding this morning is that there was some misinformation out there about what was in the T/A. Everything that was previously agreed to is contained. One bone of contention mentioned was the per diem. Rumor was only $1.25 and hour and in fact they had already agreed to $2.00. I'm sure there's more, but their local leadership and the Airline Director are there and holding meetings to review everything and answer questions.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
That's correct. Unless it is specifically written into a property's Admin Manual or some other document, there is no requirement for the membership to ratify a contract. The contract I currently operate under was voted DOWN by the membership 70%-30% and yet the MEC went ahead and signed it in anyways. The sad thing is is took another three years to actually recall them.
Bandit_Driver
Gold Member
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
MEC ratification has been eliminated at every ALPA MEC. All of them require membership ratification for contracts now, and almost all of them require it even for most LOAs. At AirTran, we require every single LOA to go to a membership vote, even if it isn't significant. Only MOUs can be signed without a membership vote.
As far as the IBT, it's much worse, and I'm surprised you aren't aware of it. Mr. Hoffa has the right to sign a contract for you unilaterally, even if your pilot group votes it down. The IBT is a top-down organization. ALPA is the exact opposite. Thank God.
Amerijet pilots ratify first contract
The Amerijet pilots have ratified their contract by a large majority! Way to go! You stood up to Bassett and Huff and they blinked.
More importantly, you brought together union members from so many different ends of the spectrum who stood with you because it was the right thing to do. You, a small carrier whom so many assumed would fold, stood up and for the first time in airline labor history, brought together SWAPA, USAPA, IBT, IPA, APA and so many individual members and leadership from air carriers. You had foreign unions, cops, bricklayers, bakers, truck drivers, construction workers, janitors...you name it...standing proudly with you.
For the first time pilots realized that we really ARE labor and face the same issues that other unions face. And you have shown that when we stand together, we lift everyone up with us. None of us are any better or more special than any other working man or woman in America.
Well done. And it'll be good to hear you back in the cockpit.
The Amerijet pilots have ratified their contract by a large majority! Way to go! You stood up to Bassett and Huff and they blinked.
More importantly, you brought together union members from so many different ends of the spectrum who stood with you because it was the right thing to do. You, a small carrier whom so many assumed would fold, stood up and for the first time in airline labor history, brought together SWAPA, USAPA, IBT, IPA, APA and so many individual members and leadership from air carriers. You had foreign unions, cops, bricklayers, bakers, truck drivers, construction workers, janitors...you name it...standing proudly with you.
For the first time pilots realized that we really ARE labor and face the same issues that other unions face. And you have shown that when we stand together, we lift everyone up with us. None of us are any better or more special than any other working man or woman in America.
Well done. And it'll be good to hear you back in the cockpit.
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
Strike is over.
From elsewhere. . .
From elsewhere. . .
BajtheJino
I'm looking at you.
To the Scabs-thats the happy, joyful and classy part.
I'm not condoning scabs in any way, shape or form but is it necessary to add that to the letter?
I'm not condoning scabs in any way, shape or form but is it necessary to add that to the letter?
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
As far as I'm concerned, he held back.
Nick
Well-Known Member
I think it is appropriate.
Who knows...maybe the strike would have been over several days ago if people hadn't crossed the picket line and helped out a company that has no interest in helping its own employees.
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
Then, what are you doing?
While I'm merely the messenger, what would you say to the scabs that crossed your line while you were trying to improve your work conditions?
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
Re: Amerijet pilots ratify first contract
They made their point and got what they wanted. Cool.
They made their point and got what they wanted. Cool.