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@UAL747400

Having an ASAP is absolutely useless if there is fear of being fired. That's not even in the thought process at other companies. In fact there are rewards and gifts awarded monthly to the most helpful submission. I'm not sure if you are just saying that there's a fear because you guys haven't experienced an ASAP program before but if those concerns come from a legitimate place/source then the culture is lightyears away from changing, and it defeats the entire purpose of the program.
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Word on the street is it's still a 100% you're fired mentality. That'd make ASAP work so well.
 
z987k said:
Word on the street is it's still a 100% you're fired mentality. That'd make ASAP work so well.
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I'm not sure how that can possibly work in this economy. It's sad because you hear one thing from management, and another thing from the pilot group. I really wish that stuff would change for future freight pilots.
 
spitfire5181 said:
WHAT! I get not wearing polos, especially since you guys actually walk through passenger terminals. But TIES! I didn't even think you could buy ties out there.

I would quit. [emoji12]
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Looks SO much better and it isn't any hotter with a cut-above shirt! :) RW won't wear it all day though like I do though... haha
 
UAL747400 said:
Interesting. My friends must be exaggerating things then. Some of the rest stuff with the DC9s seemed particularly shady if accurate.
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I think it's perspective on where you come from. People who go to a freight place for the first time in their life after flying for a regional probably think poorly of it. Going to a place like USAjet from the worst base at AMF is without a doubt 1000x better. I've never had a problem with rest under 121 supplemental. You get 2x the amount of flight time you did, minimum of 8 hours of rest.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
I think it's perspective on where you come from. People who go to a freight place for the first time in their life after flying for a regional probably think poorly of it. Going to a place like USAjet from the worst base at AMF is without a doubt 1000x better. I've never had a problem with rest under 121 supplemental. You get 2x the amount of flight time you did, minimum of 8 hours of rest.
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Yeah, these guys were at the regionals first
 
UAL747400 said:
Looks SO much better and it isn't any hotter with a cut-above shirt! :) RW won't wear it all day though like I do though... haha
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I think the uniform sans tie still looked pretty sharp for AMF. It's essentially the equivalent to the military class C(?) uniform. Of course, the trick is convincing cargo pilots to wash and iron their uniforms properly.
 
Cal Goat said:
I think the uniform sans tie still looked pretty sharp for AMF. It's essentially the equivalent to the military class C(?) uniform. Of course, the trick is convincing cargo pilots to wash and iron their uniforms properly.
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My 99 training captain looked like he crawled out of a sewer when he came to work lol. He always wore super gross uniform shirts...
 
UAL747400 said:
Yeah, these guys were at the regionals first
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Yeah, I could see that being the case then, regional to UJ may not produce a happy person. It was an easy move out of AMF to try out the 121 world. I'm at the point where I don't know where I want to be or what I want to do.

Cal Goat said:
I think the uniform sans tie still looked pretty sharp for AMF. It's essentially the equivalent to the military class C(?) uniform. Of course, the trick is convincing cargo pilots to wash and iron their uniforms properly.
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Nope, not a chance I would wear the white & bars if I have to crawl into the plane and throw boxes out. I'm not tearing up good shirts to throw boxes.
 
I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret. I wore a polo shirt about 75% of my time at AMF, which was pretty much the entire time I was CVG based. CVG was doing Adhoc when I first began flying out of there and we wore polo shirts. When the Adhoc ended, there was an announcement made that we were to go to wearing the pilot shirt and I never actually "transitioned" to it. I continued to wear polos for the next four years. Whenever the boss was around, I wore a fleece zipped all the way up (learned that trick from one of the BFI ACP's). He knew I didnt have a pilot shirt underneath the fleece, but respected the fact that I wasn't openly defiant. The base manager just didn't care. All he was worried about was that the cargo got where it needed to be on time.
 
I thought the turbine guys had most of their cargo loaded for them. I did all of the Chieftain loading at the outstations and also loaded most of my work myself out of OAK but managed to wear a clean, ironed shirt every day.
 
I didn't load boxes on my normal run. Unloading I helped with. I did fly some 99 runs for UPS which I loaded, which sucked.
 
Pretty much every outstation 99 layover that I flew, you had to load and unload it because it was a UPS truck backing up to your door.

Chieftain too, always wore a fresh uniform.
 
Cal Goat said:
I thought the turbine guys had most of their cargo loaded for them. I did all of the Chieftain loading at the outstations and also loaded most of my work myself out of OAK but managed to wear a clean, ironed shirt every day.
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I trained on a 1900 run where the pilot loaded and on occasion, my normal run I had to help load for UPS on the 1900 (and well the other, not so pleasant cargo too).
 
KLB said:
I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret. I wore a polo shirt about 75% of my time at AMF, which was pretty much the entire time I was CVG based. CVG was doing Adhoc when I first began flying out of there and we wore polo shirts. When the Adhoc ended, there was an announcement made that we were to go to wearing the pilot shirt and I never actually "transitioned" to it. I continued to wear polos for the next four years. Whenever the boss was around, I wore a fleece zipped all the way up (learned that trick from one of the BFI ACP's). He knew I didnt have a pilot shirt underneath the fleece, but respected the fact that I wasn't openly defiant. The base manager just didn't care. All he was worried about was that the cargo got where it needed to be on time.
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I learned the sweatshirt trick early on to. The white shirt turns grey within 25ft of a freighter.
 
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