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Ameriflight and RACCA on the pilot shortage
- Thread starter Beefy McGee
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You should
Bitching about it does no good except to pollute the pilot group and make for piss poor moral. Voting no for a crappy contract and fighting for what is right is done right. No one likes a complainer, and they usually aren't listened to, and spoken at rather than to.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Mark my words, spending years on end in the right seat with no end in sight will drive you batpoop crazy. You'll see.
I am, @mshunter! Hell, what's hilarious is when people call me an ass online, I hate to break it to them but my mother lovingly refers to me as an AH because I was the cold, heartless son that would do things like suggest certain family members obtain an education and gainful employment rather than drop in during Thanksgiving dinner and ask to borrow money for ridiculous "ventures".
This is true.
It is good to be king. When people know you have control of the parking brake, the beacon light and have the authority to say, "That's ok, feel free to call the chief pilot and I'll tell him the EXACT thing I just told you, in fact, use my phone", it's like working for an entirely different (and better!) airline.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Yeah, no, there is NO blacklist; most everyone from the (not too distant) Brasilia days that wants to leave has done so or is about to do so.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
NH isn't Delta or United. It isn't even a US airline. Not sure why you would even reply.
In the end I later mentioned I could have been wrong and brought in the guys that would know.
Must have misheard then. It happens sadly.
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
NH = new hire. I replied because you made a bold, matter of fact statement that is completely incorrect. There's a lot of misinformation coming out of XJT these days and I don't think it's helpful to anyone trying to actually advance their careers.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
I think he means "New Hire". Maggsy is a junior steamshipper. Toot toot!
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
That would make more sense. Saying NH and then following up with other codes was weird. I would have never expected ANA to have so many US expats.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
It wasn't from XJT. Seems like I misheared. I thought I got it from an ALPA guy at the United Open House last year.
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
Didn't mean to sound touchy about it. It's just that I've heard this statement before and I don't think it's constructive.
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Exact same from AMF, of which Maurus is an alumni of both.
I'm not sure what's worse, the rumors themselves or the people that believe it despite massive amounts of factual evidence to support the contrary.
NH = New Hire Class.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Believe or not I never did drink the koolade. The reason I went to AMF was because I wasn't sure if I wanted to go the airline route or go for corporate. I knew AMF wasn't going to close any doors and would improve my resume so it made sense.
I was always skeptical about the SWA stuff they spouted however SWA guys always asked if my app was in and I even ran into a few previous AMFers flying for them. It has happened but the hiring game has changed
AMF's small footprint and short longevity makes it unlikely that more than 10% of their 170 pilots are even qualified for major at any time. Obviously you won't find many making the jump because they simply don't stick around long enough.
In the end I do mention this stuff because it what is owhat is out there. Having people in the know respond is how learning takes place
No need to get all aggressive about this stuff. Just go relax. You have your career job. You don't need to constantly complain about a job you didn't like 3 years ago. Time to move on.
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Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
There seems to be very little credible and concrete information out there re: how processes actually work.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
The misinformation is due to a lack of transparency of the hiring process. Ten years ago people knew what needed to be done to be competitive. Now it isn't so clear and has become very subjective in nature.
The reason you get this stuff from XJT guys is likely because we are something like 50% of United and Delta feed.
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mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
I know quite well. I didn't intend to be melicious to SkyWest guys. They are good guys. Somewhere along the way I picked that stuff up and even called in the guys that would likely know.And guess who is doing the other 50%
Participating in these threads is how people can learn and have rumors and such squashed. If someone like me wasn't here to constantly screw up how could others learn?
Why people need to get personally involved (some obsessed) about this stuff is beyond me.
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I am not aggressive at all. Just tired of seeing misinformation spread about the hiring process. It is actually quite simple. To get hired it is all about who you know, not what you know. After that, it is military and heavy jet time, after that, jet PIC, after that, jet FO. There are exceptions to every rule, but I am not sitting around scratching my head on how to get hired to a major, I know what I need to do and I am working on it. I am not constantly complaining about a job I had 3 years ago. I am trying to correct misinformation that you are trying to spread about a job YOU had 3 years ago. There isn't a single pilot that went from flight instructing, to AMF, to a top 3 on this planet, from the last 10 years. This "I knew a guy" or "I heard about a guy who knew a guy who went to United" is all BS. You don't know his qualifications, his resume, his networking skills, or the legwork put in to get there. It is a different time now, so spreading coat tail hopes and dreams does nothing for anyone, it didn't get you out of AMF to a major, and it won't get you out of XJT to a major any faster by believing false rumors.