Ameriflight and RACCA on the pilot shortage

spbrian said:
Agreed, I would not change anything.
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You see...you learned how to deal with migraine sized management headaches on a larger level at AMF that makes your current management headaches seem like child's play. :)
 
Single pilot IFR freight flying is a unique experience, I am glad I did it for sure. I am not sure I would change it either, as it got me where I am so far, and I am happy with that. However, the skills we learned and used there will deteriorate since we don't use them anymore. At that point, the skills are no better than guys that have been sitting in a part 25 jet flying pax... This whole "makes a better pilot" thing is ridiculous. Sure my job is easier now than it was when I was flying freight, isn't that the point? Bragging about how hard we had it is a very odd standpoint.
 
KLB said:
@UAL747400 ,

You've made it to the brasilia. You've already plateaued when it comes to excitement and flying. You just have not recognized it yet. ;)
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I actually prefer it these days. Less pain and suffering. Especially since Im still flying everyday with the "other duties". Haha

There's Jetstars out there still though! :)
 
spbrian said:
Why is it that the loudest people whining are the people who currently have been employed in aviation during a period of unprecedented opportunities for advancement and change, right @KLB ?
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Whose whining, merely pointing out that management dug their own hole.
 
I flew single pilot night fright after flying dual pilot helicopters in the Army. It was a big change for me looking over and seeing an empty seat. As I told people, the hours were long, the equipment was crap, but at least the pay sucked.
In truth the pay was not great ($75/day back then was not bad), the equipment was okay (beat up, but well maintained Senecas). But yeah, the flying was a challenge.
At my regional interview the guy says, "I see you've been doing single pilot freight. You have not scared yourself out of flying, you're still alive, so you must be a good instrument pilot." I was hired.
Just remember, however, that pay has nothing to do with the challenge of your work. It is all about supply and demand.
 
Soku39 said:
Whose whining, merely pointing out that management dug their own hole.
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I continually see quite a few posts or threads with the same tag line and same wording in the post from the same people.

One post is pointing out. Continued posting is whining.

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Champcar said:
I'll be honest and flame me all you want.

I would love to fly for a living, I really would. But I have a wife, kid, and a mortgage to worry about it. It is just not worth it to me to instruct on the side to build up towards the 1500 hour requirement and I'm sure as heck not going to quit my nice paying job to instruct. It's just not worth it nor am I willing to go through the sacrifice to get to 1500 hours, that is just my truth.

Now if hiring mins were much lower, say 500 hours (I'm talking 121) with advanced training programs etc then I would be all over it. The 1500 hour rule was a knee jerk reaction to an accident, manual flying skills have decreased across the industry and is not a problem limited to low timers.
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I have to ponder over how many people who may flame you and are established in the industry, actually benefited from the lack of a 1500 rule to begin with back in the day? I could smash bugs in the pattern for a thousand hours, but does that really determine my feasibility as a 121 FO? Let's be honest, not really. Barring the 135 stuff, Pre 3407 knee jerk reaction mania, the system basically worked. One guy fell through the cracks and bam. That said, if it weren't for the "shortage" we're seeing now, pay would still be terrible. It's maybe less terrible now. I dunno, I'm not there. I'm sitting on the far end of 1500 TT. I kind of have the best of both worlds right now, I have a decent non-aviation job, benefits, etc, and I fly survey part time. I guess there could be worse things.
 
Acrofox said:
All that, and nobody's revoked my "man" card for posting an MLP response?

I love it.

~Foxy
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I have a 6 year old daughter...I live in a damn world of Twilight Sparkle, Pinky Pie, Elsa, Ana, and all things Disney...I honestly cruised right by your MLP reference and had to go back to find it, I'm that indoctrinated...
 
ozziecat35 said:
I have a 6 year old daughter...I live in a damn world of Twilight Sparkle, Pinky Pie, Elsa, Ana, and all things Disney...I honestly cruised right by your MLP reference and had to go back to find it, I'm that indoctrinated...
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Wow... kids watch MLP too??!

That's kinda neat. I never realized.

-Fox
 
Inverted said:
Single pilot IFR freight flying is a unique experience, I am glad I did it for sure. I am not sure I would change it either, as it got me where I am so far, and I am happy with that. However, the skills we learned and used there will deteriorate since we don't use them anymore. At that point, the skills are no better than guys that have been sitting in a part 25 jet flying pax... This whole "makes a better pilot" thing is ridiculous. Sure my job is easier now than it was when I was flying freight, isn't that the point? Bragging about how hard we had it is a very odd standpoint.
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The bolded part of what I quoted just means it can be flown by a moron. :)
 
Soku39 said:
I just can't bring myself to care. The entire industry has made the prospects becoming a pilot so bad for so long, to the point that an entire generation hasn't bothered to learn how to fly, and those that already can are doing other things. They dug this hole, they can dig themselves out, or go bankrupt because there's no bodies for the seats, either way I don't care.
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I love you maaaaaan
 
This is nothing new. In 1997 I interviewed with and got the job at Airnet. Before accepting, the local Navajo driver bragged about going through everything but level 6 cells.

I turned it down. Six months later I was flying SIC in citation II's and V's. Leapfrogged the whole crappy segment.
 
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