American Eagle changing pilot interview process [slightly]

Cherokee_Cruiser

Cherokee_Cruiser

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This is from Eaglelounge,

Apparently, the latest class had 20 scheduled but only 8 pilots showed up.

So, the changes made:

* authorized the hiring if additional simulator instructors, as well as securing outside simulator time to increase the size of new hire classes.


* have elected to eliminate the Cognitive Screening testing during the interview process, to allow Eagle to be more competitive with other regional airlines.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
This is from Eaglelounge,

Apparently, the latest class had 20 scheduled but only 8 pilots showed up.

So, the changes made:

* authorized the hiring if additional simulator instructors, as well as securing outside simulator time to increase the size of new hire classes.


* have elected to eliminate the Cognitive Screening testing during the interview process, to allow Eagle to be more competitive with other regional airlines.
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With all due respect to Eagle - that makes no sense. If 20 were scheduled and only 8 showed up that means that 12 people had passed the interview and were expected to be in class but chose not to be there.

So:
- Adding additional sim. instructors makes no sense, because I assume they were already staffed to meet the needs of 20 people - with their show rate they could "increase" the new hire class size to 40+ and still have less than 20 show up.

- I assume that the 12 people that didn't show had already passed the interview and the cognitive test, so now they've removed that test, which I assume means they'll be able to invite 40+ people to the class but again less than 20 will show, but they'd already got 20 people through the cognitive test - there's some other reason they don't show for class.

Hey - I'm all for increasing the number of sim. instructors and killing the cognitive test, but I'm not buying the cause and effect.
 
CFIse said:
Hey - I'm all for increasing the number of sim. instructors and killing the cognitive test, but I'm not buying the cause and effect.
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And here is your first lesson in AMRosophy. Logic, or anything like it, has no place at AMR. (I spent 7 years there, I can say that!)
 
MQAAord said:
And here is your first lesson in AMRosophy. Logic, or anything like it, has no place at AMR. (I spent 7 years there, I can say that!)
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Amber that is at any airline.......also the words "common sense" do not exist at airlines
 
surreal1221 said:
Silly question, what 'was' the cognitive screening test?
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It was a computer-based test that tested hand-eye coordination and multi-tasking skills with time pressure. It made you do things like determine quickly if two letter/number sequences were the same, repeat back letter sequences (link that 80's kid's toy, I forget what it was called), and all these other bizarre and kind of stressful things. If you failed--which a fair number did--you had to pay a private psychologist $500-1000 to run the test again and show that you didn't have neurological difficulties.

The test wouldn't be too bad if it was all you were there to do, but they made you do it on the second day after you'd already had a full and stressful day of interviewing and been poked and prodded in every way imaginable during the medical.

I highly doubt this will help Eagle. What they need to do is recognize that the way they assign aircraft is completely incompatible with the way their bases are distributed. If most of your aircraft--CRJ, Saab, ATR--only have two bases in one general region, but the airline as a whole is spread out throughout the whole continent, it doesn't make sense not to give new hires any idea of what they can expect for an aircraft/base. People are genuinely afraid to go there because they're afraid they'll get stuck in the ATR or Saab in some base they hate with no chance to go anywhere for a year and a half. If they simply gave people an idea of where they'd be going, they wouldn't have a million no-shows.
 
zmiller4 said:
If most of your aircraft--CRJ, Saab, ATR--only have two bases in one general region, but the airline as a whole is spread out throughout the whole continent, it doesn't make sense not to give new hires any idea of what they can expect for an aircraft/base. People are genuinely afraid to go there because they're afraid they'll get stuck in the ATR or Saab in some base they hate with no chance to go anywhere for a year and a half. If they simply gave people an idea of where they'd be going, they wouldn't have a million no-shows.
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I don't think you could pay me enough to go "anywhere" for your company no matter what kind of job it was... Work to live people, don't live to work!
 
Just a side note to this and the logic at AE. I intereviewed last year to the date and was given a conditional acceptance based on openings in the LAX area for A&P position. They said no openings after a promise for a January start. Now they said that my application has expired and to resubmit. I did and now another interview/screening/testing...blah blah blah. Not a very cost effective process considering the flight/hotel/testing etc, and the cost of me taking time off for two days. So you may wonder whats the holy grail of pay? 15 bux an hour. Whew Hoo!

My 1.9 Cents
 
That cog test was fun!!!

The reason that A.E. is having problems with folks not showing up for interviews has NOTHING to do with the interview process iteself. Yes, it's long and intense, but I've heard of worse.

The upgrade time (or total lack thereof) is the reason that folks don't want to come here. Unfrortunately, until American starts recalling their furloughed pilots of which 400+ are currently sitting in the left seat at Eagle.....NOTHING will change.

They just canceled the CRJ captain upgrade class that was scheduled for December.
 
TXaviator said:
id just want to murder people by the end of day 1 for that STUPID ACCENT.
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OMG......I can't stand that terrible accent either. :) You know people, there are 26 lettaas in the english alphabet. No one drives their caaa to the baaa.

How does WORCHESTER become pronounced as WOOSTER???? Just curious. ;)
 
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