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“Last week, the APA’s board of directors signed off on plans to form a negotiating committee between the APA and APLA. This comes after 58% of pilots recently polled at the Fort Worth, Texas-based carrier say they “strongly” or “somewhat favor” a committee to explore a merger.

The union will hold a special board meeting in late June to elect members for the merger committee. About 25% of APA-represented pilots polled said they were “firmly opposed to an ALPA merger, don’t want a committee or want to fund a committee …”

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American Pilots Make Another Move Toward ALPA Merger | AirlineGeeks.com

Currently, the group is represented by the Allied Pilots Association (APA), though a majority of members voted earlier this year to explore a merger.
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Skåning said:
Yeah finally put an end to the anti labor behavior. I’m convinced that’s why they shut down the full merger with ASA and XJT.
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ALPA being certified at SkyWest won't put an end to the anti-labor behavior in SGU (and to a lesser but still very extant, er, extent, SLC pilots). Shucks, it would probably only be the middle of that; the beatings will continue until an Agreement is negotiated and probably afterwards.

BUT

It would certainly be most welcome regardless.
 
Skåning said:
ALPA drive at SkyWest right now too
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This is so confusing to me, because neither me nor any of the other people who have been working on organizing for years have heard anything about it.

The line from ALPA for years was that they needed 80% contact information for the pilot group before they'd commit any resources, which was proving impossible to get due to the instability at both ends of the pilot group.

That said, I really don't care who's on the OC—I'm a yes vote by default. But it's just surprising that I'm on the outside.
 
🦈💜 said:
The line from ALPA for years was that they needed 80% contact information for the pilot group before they'd commit any resources, which was proving impossible to get due to the instability at both ends of the pilot group.
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At BlueJuice Factory(2013), we took it upon ourselves to organize after 2 prior attempts. I was part of the OC and made hundreds of calls. Card drive and everything was internal until ALPA saw that the group was serious. It can be done if the pilots really want it.
 
Soul Brotha' said:
At BlueJuice Factory(2013), we took it upon ourselves to organize after 2 prior attempts. I was part of the OC and made hundreds of calls. Card drive and everything was internal until ALPA saw that the group was serious. It can be done if the pilots really want it.
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Hell yeah. No, we were fighting for years, trying to get people engaged, trying to get people active, trying to build and spread the network, etc. Half the battle is that at SkyWest, the junior pilots are all wide-eyed "OMG THIS IS THE BEST JOB I'VE EVER HAD" types, so a huge chunk of the battle is cultural education.

Whatever's going on right now is out of the blue and from an entirely different group. Unfortunately, due to Facebook making anti-trans hate speech fair game, me (and most of my trans friends) left Facebook entirely, and I'm guessing whatever's going on is happening there. It probably started due to the forced upgrades (sending west-coast FOs across the country to sit short-call reserve in DTW 18+ days a month with no recourse) and the overall tone shift at the company. (As soon as pilots became easier to obtain, suddenly they weren't being treated with kid gloves anymore.)

It's possible that our organizing efforts and our efforts to educate did eventually take root, though. Again, I don't really care who spearheads it, I just want to get it done.
 
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Hell yeah. No, we were fighting for years, trying to get people engaged, trying to get people active, trying to build and spread the network, etc. Half the battle is that at SkyWest, the junior pilots are all wide-eyed "OMG THIS IS THE BEST JOB I'VE EVER HAD" types, so a huge chunk of the battle is cultural education.

Whatever's going on right now is out of the blue and from an entirely different group. Unfortunately, due to Facebook making anti-trans hate speech fair game, me (and most of my trans friends) left Facebook entirely, and I'm guessing whatever's going on is happening there. It probably started due to the forced upgrades (sending west-coast FOs across the country to sit short-call reserve in DTW 18+ days a month with no recourse) and the overall tone shift at the company. (As soon as pilots became easier to obtain, suddenly they weren't being treated with kid gloves anymore.)

It's possible that our organizing efforts and our efforts to educate did eventually take root, though. Again, I don't really care who spearheads it, I just want to get it done.
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That bright eyed and bushy tailed new FO mentality is probably gone now that they’re indentured servants with a 5 year training contract.
 
Soku39 said:
I would be shocked if this happens. Too many people in Dallas don't realize how much better they could have it.
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Meh. I’ve been at two ALPA carriers before. One was good, the other not so much. The union is only as good as the membership and volunteers. I am indifferent at this point, but don’t really see how ALPA is worth the difference in dues.
 
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