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The town hall right now is very interesting. PHL reps are saying the negotiator that is well known was doing premium all week long and negotiating on his layover via zoom. I knew he was doing it but am shocked at how much he was doing it.
 
L-16B said:
The town hall right now is very interesting. PHL reps are saying the negotiator that is well known was doing premium all week long and negotiating on his layover via zoom. I knew he was doing it but am shocked at how much he was doing it.
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How else you gonna credit 200+ hours of premium, utterly disgusting.
 
Who’s doing the negotiating, pilots trained for it or a professional funded by the union who’s more directed by the said pilots? I know APA is different but under the large ALPA umbrella why isn’t everything done from professionals who specialize in this stuff?
 
tcco94 said:
Who’s doing the negotiating, pilots trained for it or a professional funded by the union who’s more directed by the said pilots? I know APA is different but under the large ALPA umbrella why isn’t everything done from professionals who specialize in this stuff?
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Pilots highly trained in the art of flying 200+ hours of premium while “negotiating”.

Also highly trained to have no shame while doing so.
 
tcco94 said:
Who’s doing the negotiating, pilots trained for it or a professional funded by the union who’s more directed by the said pilots? I know APA is different but under the large ALPA umbrella why isn’t everything done from professionals who specialize in this stuff?
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Because those professionals themselves will tell you that they aren’t capable of doing as good a job at the table, because they don’t know what it’s like to live the contact like we do. They’re better as advisors.
 
tcco94 said:
Who’s doing the negotiating, pilots trained for it or a professional funded by the union who’s more directed by the said pilots?
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On the ALPA side, negotiations are normally done by a committee of 3 to 4 pilots who, at a minimum attend a 3 day class put on by ALPA. Generally the committee chair has at least one Section 6 experience on an NC in the past and a history of working on the grievance, contract enforcement or communications committees. The team is backed up by an Labor Relations lawyer (assigned specifically to that property), an Economics and Financial Analysis specialist, and then as things heat up a negotiations specialist (normally an attorney). The NC also has access to ALPA's communications department as needed as well as Comstock Polling.

The NC here has 4 members. Between the chair and I we've already been through three Section Sixes on an NC and have a combined 35 years of Committee work between communications, scheduling, grievance, and negotiations. The other two guys have past experience in grievance and communications. This is about the mid ground of experience for NCs at a major/legacy.

I have no idea what was going on at APA but here the Chair is on full time leave during the section six process and unable to fly any kind of premium (any flying goes back as a refund of flight pay loss). The rest of us fly a few trips a month and miss out on most premium pay opportunities because of our schedule. It's not a place to make extra money at all.
 
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