ALPA: It's Time for Regionals To Raise Pay

A noble assumption but I wouldn't build an entire strategy around that idea.

There is a lot of death by a thousand paper cuts in the business. Remember when CMR owned CVG, ASA owned DFW/ATL and Skywest owned SLC?

I think you missed my point. I don't think it will happen, ever. But I'd love to see it. The cost alone would force them to rid the world of regionals, which short term would totally suck. But long term, I'd love it.
 
It wouldn't change it except in some fantasy world you've concocted in your head. That's the whole point.

I fully admitted it will never happen. But it's the only way it ever will. Which is why I'm basically saying the same thing you and Derg are. Go back to my first post in this thread. The one where I said it will never change.
 
I really don't think there will be American regional airlines in the next ten years.

I think that it is more that there won't be the current fee-for-departure suncontractor 121 airlines in the future.

There will always be smaller scheduled airlines that will serve smaller markets that the major airlines won't want to bother with.
 
I really don't think there will be American regional airlines in the next ten years.

Sorry if you went into more detail about this in another post, as I didn't see it. Is this a reference to loosening cabotage rules? Like an American corporation owns the airplanes that contracts the flying for Southern jets and said corporation gets its pilots through an agency that recruits in Eastern Europe, Thailand, and Philippines? Or in a good way, like the pilots have a small victory and strong unions, combined with safety concerns, and a weak supply of pilots causes 70 and 90 seat jets to be flown by the Legacy and LCCs?
 
I think that it is more that there won't be the current fee-for-departure suncontractor 121 airlines in the future.

There will always be smaller scheduled airlines that will serve smaller markets that the major airlines won't want to bother with.
Funny, because if the airlines went back to just code-sharing with smaller local service airlines, we will have come full circle. I'm not sure if that will happen, but I could see it eventually.
 
Funny, because if the airlines went back to just code-sharing with smaller local service airlines, we will have come full circle. I'm not sure if that will happen, but I could see it eventually.

That never worked all that well, even though that was the system for many decades.

"Local service carriers" (the Ozarks, Southerns, North Centrals, Piedmonts, etc, etc) always lived hand to mouth, and depended greatly (under regulation) from subsidies from the Federal Government. When the "trunk" carriers served small places, it was because they were forced to by the CAB, and it was the long haul, major population traffic that subsidized small places. The ugly truth is that there simply not enough revenue in small population centers. Some of those outfits grew a brain, and actually did something with what little they had to work with, so when the shackles came off, they were able to do something.

The regional airline system, as it exists in the US, came about because the Local Service carriers KNEW there was no money in local service, and grew beyond their original raison d'être, leaving a void in the market. There's good reason for that.

Now that said, I'm a firm believer in a rising tide should lift all boats. If we believe that air transportation is a utility, then it should be regulated as such (to some extent) to provide at least some measure of utility to everyone, the same as electricity and phone service (which undergoes the same set of economics and government regulation). By that same token, people need to understand that if you live in the sticks, 2 or 3 717s to Hubsburg is all you are going to get, and if you want to fly on the big boy metal to more and exciting destinations, then you need to live in the Big Boy City.

Richman
 
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