ALMOST DONE!!!

Yup, see ya then. Atlantic Coast Airlines is where I got accepted to do an internship. GREAT COMPANY! I had a ball, and would REALLY like to work for them.
 
Sweet, I wanted to intern there too, but don't have a Commercial
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. I managed to get on with ExpressJet. I like it here as well.
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By the way, I didn't mean to sound snappy towards you, I just take it personally when I'm looked down upon based on my degree when people have no real knowlage of why people are leaving.

Thanks

Marilyn
 
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I guess you could say that taking more classes than you was easier. I took all the same classes you did plus 15 credits more...and wait here it comes...I DID FLIGHT AT THE SAME TIME.

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People in the ERAU flight program do just as many classes and flying at the same time too. What's your point?

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Imagine that...you you having the balls to say that I cant hack it....You are very full of yourself. Sorry I went to the same school as you, I do not want to be associated with someone like you!

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You'd be lucky to associate with a pilot like ERAU_Intern. I can attest.
 
What I think what flynlow is getting at is when ERAU_Intern stated that the ASP student's couldn't "hack it", that he was thinking he was a better pilot than flynlow simply because he did the flight with Riddle. (IE: since we didn't do the flight with Riddle, we didn't do the flight while in school, therefore Riddle flight students can handle more) His statment about the credit hours is simply showing that he did the same thing as an AS student and that he could "hack it", he just didn't wanna deal with the rest of Riddle's BS.

Some ASP students are very touchy about this subject and REALLY don't liked to be talked down too in such a manner. Saying an ASP student "couldn't hack it" when they have also worked hard is very derogatory and an insult which will more than likely end up with an ASP person getting very angry. Like I had said before, the ASP students already have the school giving us a hard time, we don't need it from our peers as well.

Although his comment is rough, I can't say it is not far from the truth. Embry Riddle pilots seem to have the air that their "• don't stink" and this tends to rub many people the wrong way. Not just ASP people, but people who are in the flying world outside of Riddle. Obviously by your name you are also a Riddle pilot... and I don't think you see what the rest of the world sees when the look at the general Riddle pilots.

I'm not here to blow smoke up your butt, I'm just telling you what I have seen while I was in the AS program and what I have seen since coming out of it. I have many friends that are AS, so I am not trying to say they are all "cocky bastards" because not everyone is. The problem is that the ones who are, show it proudly and make the rest of the people look bad. And the problem is that having such a arrogant attitude spreads the reputation throughout the school and when someone looks at us, they see nothing but arrogance.

Anyway... I will get down of my soap box (again). I hope this clears up what flynlow was trying to say, it may not have been tactful, but he did have a point.

Thanks,

Marilyn
 
Wow FlynLow. You are incredible. Im sorry, im sorry. But I have to be perfectly honest. I hope I never see someone like you next to me in a cockpit. You have the most defensive, negative attitude I have ever seen in a pilot. What is it? No self confidence? I would just like to know what your problem is so that I can understand. And umm......me cocky? AbsoFRIGGINlutely!!! Pilots have to be confident buddy. Thats what keeps our edge for us. Sorry Coug, looks like youve lost it.
 
Alright flyn_ace, I can understand where you're coming from. However, I think something else needs to be clarified.

Unfortunately, quite a few pilots who have done all or part of the ERAU flight program (when I refer to "all," I refer to going through FA110-FA325) believe that it's ERAU that makes them a good pilot. This could not be further from the truth. My certificate is the same as the one you get over at some FBO. It doesn't say anything about Riddle on it, and it would be absolutely unfair and arrogant to treat someone else with the same certificate any different, just because of where they received it.

Now that that's taken care of, you need to first put yourself in the shoes of most AS students at ERAU. We see people come and go all the time. Some because they couldn't afford it, and some because they couldn't handle the program. That's the reality...some people are not cut out to be a pilot. I understand that ASPs often get a bad rap, but even ASPs with different motives (costs, etc.) need to realize that quite a few ASPs are ASPs because they couldn't make it through the flight program at ERAU. Again, that's reality.

I hope I'm not putting myself in the gallows now, but I hope you see where we're coming from.
 
Well said. I dont think I could have made a better case in point. Now.....back to buisness........any other "half cocked" remarks FlynLow????
 
You know ERAU_Intern, I had thought you were different (and even defended you), but I guess I was wrong, you are cocky.

Apparently you don't understand the difference between being cocky and being confident. The biggest difference is that the confindent one knows what he is doing, and the cocky one just THINKS he knows what he is doing.

You can be confident without being cocky, it just requires removing your head from your ass.

Look at Doug... a product of the Riddle flight line, yet I have never sensed a hint of cockiness about him, just pure confidence... THAT my class mate is what a REAL pilot is like. (Take notes...) Of course, I'm not saying that to get on Doug's good side (sorry Doug) I just find him to be a prime example of what it's like to be confident and compitant with out displaying down right arrogance.

Way to go on fitting the whole stereotype thing....
 
I have no "half cocked" remarks for you. I have a right to be defensive and negative towards YOU...just like I said, “What gives you the right to call ASP students the "cant handle it crowd". I took the same tests as you, I took the same classes as you, and I took the same check rides approved by the FAA as you. So maybe you can clarify it to me what makes me less of a pilot than you? Yes I too hope that I never see you to my right in the cockpit, and don't call me your buddy. Oh yeah...there is a difference between cocky and confident, one will kill ya and the other will make you a great, safe pilot.

I really do not question your abilities as a pilot...I never had, we took the same tests and past them as well or we would not be where we are today. I love flying and everything about it, what I do not like is when someone tries to talk down to me for taking a different route.

Oh by the way, I stopped their program by choice because I was waiting for more than 3 months for a 208 instructor. I am glad that I took the route I did, if I had not I would still be there trying to finish with my roommates.

I never had any animosity toward you, but you need to understand that there are many paths to a goal; just because someone didn’t take yours does not make them less of a person or a pilot.

Hey RiddlePilot...I am glad to see that you understand, but remember that many of the ASP's that I know are still flying as CFI's. I do understand that some ASP students changed to that major for reasons you have stated, but please dont clump the rest of us with those students. Many of us have continued flying outside of Riddle's program. We all have our reasons for the decisions we make while at school, those decisions need to be something that others do not judge but can accept. I am no better or no worse than another ERAU pilot with the same hours and ratings. Please dont assume that I am.

I hope that you too can see where the ASP students are comming from.
 
I do understand your point Riddle_pilot... I have obviously been in an AS student's shoes before (otherwise I wouldn't be in this program)... But that still doesn't give a person the right to critisize a person who had a bad time with the Flight Line. Just because they couldn't make it doesn't mean you know what led up to them quitting.

I don't think you understand exactly what happens when you finally trip up and have problems... the first time... the Flight Line starts looking at dropping you. It maybe a bad couple of flights or that you aren't grasping a concept, but the bottom line is the first thing out of thier mouth is "if you don't get this right we are going to drop you". Don't tell me that doesn't happen, because I have seen it myself. Upon entering the flight program my family and I were promised that they could "teach anybody... the program is taught at the student's own pace". This speach was given to my family and I on Nov. 11th 1998 ( I know this because that is the date we had the Accepted Student Preview day). I'm sorry, but they did not in anyway fulfill thier end of the bargain when I signed on.

Like I said, I have been in the AS shoes, I do know what it's all about. And I also believe that it is true that some people aren't meant to fly, but when the Flight Managers tell you you can't fly while your instructor is telling you that you can, who are you gonna believe?

Anyway... I am not trying to fight, I am simply defending those of us who are looked on so poorly by the school and obviously our peers. We are obviously doing the same amount of work and don't deserve the critisizm.

I hope this add MORE light to our missunderstood degree and I hope that those who are in other majors know that we are equal pilots, regardless of whether or not we finished flight at the Riddle flight line.

Thanks RiddlePilot for trying to see stuff from another point of view.
 
Everybody listen up, because I'm only going to say this once.

AS/ASP, no difference. Only one flight trained at Riddle, one didn't. Both hold a degree from Riddle. Not that THAT makes a whole hell of a lot of difference in the real world, but if you want to "whip it out" and compare sizes at the peon level, which you're all at, they're all the same folks.

Now, cocky vs confident......

None of you FNGs, AS or ASP, has even ONE reason to be cocky. You haven't the experience, the judgement, nor the hours to claim to be the king of the peons. Right now, you ALL suck. You all are the most dangerous pilots there could be, newly minted and out of school. The onus is up to you to gain the experience to dig yourself out of this self-imposed hole. Be confident yes, but none of you have ANY right to be cocky over any other.

Remember when it comes to confident/cocky........There's a fine line between keeping your chin up and sticking your neck out.

I never did FA-110, etc. I had my PVT coming in, as did Doug, and we went the old-school route of FA-205/207/314/315, back when you guys were in 6th grade. You guys arguing about who'd the leader of the preschool sandbox is like arguing whether coke is really better than pepsi.......and they're all colas.

Now let me get back to some real work......
 
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And umm......me cocky? AbsoFRIGGINlutely!!! Pilots have to be confident buddy. Thats what keeps our edge for us. Sorry Coug, looks like youve lost it.

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Oh Brother, now I am officially embarassed to be an ERAU-PRC Alumni...

Careful son, the person you kill with that attitude might be yourself.
 
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Mike,

When were you at ERAU-PRC? Sounds like we were there very close to the same time (i.e. FA-104/105/205/207/314/315/400)
 
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Everybody listen up, because I'm only going to say this once.

AS/ASP, no difference. Only one flight trained at Riddle, one didn't. Both hold a degree from Riddle. Not that THAT makes a whole hell of a lot of difference in the real world, but if you want to "whip it out" and compare sizes at the peon level, which you're all at, they're all the same folks.

Now, cocky vs confident......

None of you FNGs, AS or ASP, has even ONE reason to be cocky. You haven't the experience, the judgement, nor the hours to claim to be the king of the peons. Right now, you ALL suck. You all are the most dangerous pilots there could be, newly minted and out of school. The onus is up to you to gain the experience to dig yourself out of this self-imposed hole. Be confident yes, but none of you have ANY right to be cocky over any other.

Remember when it comes to confident/cocky........There's a fine line between keeping your chin up and sticking your neck out.

I never did FA-110, etc. I had my PVT coming in, as did Doug, and we went the old-school route of FA-205/207/314/315, back when you guys were in 6th grade. You guys arguing about who'd the leader of the preschool sandbox is like arguing whether coke is really better than pepsi.......and they're all colas.

Now let me get back to some real work......

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Sorry to be a total n00b and pull up some old [expletive deleted], but this is the most asinine BS I have ever heard. Thank the lord people can mature, as this is the same "cockiness" that is oh so eloquently described by this pompous, arrogant guy. Hope you heard this, as I will only say this once. As my mom once told me, "if you have nothing nice to say, say it to stupid people." This ones looking at you champ.
 
A pilot thinking he's tough [expletive deleted] because he went through Riddle, who'd of thunk it? What's next, a Riddle pilot bragging about his BMW? I'm just kidding. No offense Khal.
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AbsoFRIGGINlutely!!! Pilots have to be confident buddy. Thats what keeps our edge for us. Sorry Coug, looks like youve lost it.

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I hope to never fly with you buddy. One mistake because of cockiness in the air and there is only one way to go.
 
Funny thread. It makes itself go on, and on, and on. I just want to see what happens in the end, and hopefully there are no smokey holes....but based un some people, smokey holes are destined. You know who I am talking about....
 
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I hope to never fly with you buddy. One mistake because of cockiness in the air and there is only one way to go.

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What a terrible thing to say. You judge a pilot's abilities based upon one post? I've personally flown with ERAU_Intern on numerous occasions, and can attest to his skills and professionalism in the cockpit. He is a confident pilot, and having known him for 3 years now, I can assure you that he does not present a cocky attitude in the cockpit.

Now let's get something straight for everyone here (not directed solely at Enders). None of the pilots that I respect at this university are cocky and arrogant people. You know what we call those folks? That's right. The same everyone else does: idiots. I see so much more arrogance and "holier-than-thou" attitudes at this very board than I do any day of the week at ERAU. Cockiness is frowned upon on this board (as it should), yet, I dare any one of you that has never had a flight that you were unsure if you'd make it home to tell me that you're not cocky to a degree. Yep, I dare you.

The point I'm trying to make is that those who accuse ERAU pilots of being cocky and arrogant are often jumping on the "trash ERAU" bandwagon, regardless of their own attitudes. I suggest that all of you take a very close look at yourselves before you pass any judgement on the university or the pilots that fly there.

I'm done with this topic now. If someone has something intelligent to add, you're welcome to PM me.
 
100% agreed bud. There are many idiots at our school who will filtered out of the industry later in life, and there are those who wont make it. And then there are those who care about aviation, and have a passion. We're not the one throwing our ratings around to get girls or respect. We just do what we do b/c we love it.
RiddlePilot, do you mean cocky guys like the "autonomates" guy? There is a piece of work, and being lumped in with that guy by many people on this board is highly offensive.
 
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What a terrible thing to say. You judge a pilot's abilities based upon one post? I've personally flown with ERAU_Intern on numerous occasions, and can attest to his skills and professionalism in the cockpit. He is a confident pilot, and having known him for 3 years now, I can assure you that he does not present a cocky attitude in the cockpit.

Now let's get something straight for everyone here (not directed solely at Enders). None of the pilots that I respect at this university are cocky and arrogant people. You know what we call those folks? That's right. The same everyone else does: idiots. I see so much more arrogance and "holier-than-thou" attitudes at this very board than I do any day of the week at ERAU. Cockiness is frowned upon on this board (as it should), yet, I dare any one of you that has never had a flight that you were unsure if you'd make it home to tell me that you're not cocky to a degree. Yep, I dare you.

The point I'm trying to make is that those who accuse ERAU pilots of being cocky and arrogant are often jumping on the "trash ERAU" bandwagon, regardless of their own attitudes. I suggest that all of you take a very close look at yourselves before you pass any judgement on the university or the pilots that fly there.

I'm done with this topic now. If someone has something intelligent to add, you're welcome to PM me.

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I apologize, that wasn't right for me to assume this guy is cocky in the sky. My point still stands though, I don't want to be flying with a cocky pilot.

As for trashing ERAU, I only said the cocky remark to say the second one and take a low blow at Khal and his BMW sig.
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So if I offended anyone, I apologize for that too. And now I'll leave this thread before it starts flaming again.
 
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