Allegiant Revives Plane Business' Titanic Watch

BEEF SUPREME said:
This one million times over.

When we flew into Henderson I always asked to be put at the Hampton Inn right by the airport. I could never figure out why a crew member would want to drive 30 min to an hour stuck in traffic, spend 35 minutes waiting in line to check into a hotel. Doubly so when people were smoking and there was an incessant racket from gambling machines.


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The M Casino is close to HND and really effing nice but yeah, the Strip is a waste of time if you're only in town a night.
 
Vegas and Orlando are about the same layover for me. Fun places when you're with friends, but if you're flying with Eeyore The FO or don't have a significant amount of time, which is rare, it's "meh" at best.

Unless, of course, @Avalon781ML is in town… and you have significant time… which almost guarantees you're flying a transcon redeye the next night. @SeanD sure ain't coming to the strip and I completely get that! :)
 
SeanD said:
The M Casino is close to HND and really effing nice but yeah, the Strip is a waste of time if you're only in town a night.
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The M is a pretty nice property, but pilots like cheap food and pilots have lost a lot of 'cachet' since the old days — 5% off a $32 breakfast buffet! Ha!
 
SeanD said:
I really dont see how this model works anymore for them. A majority of what Allegiant profits goes right back into fixing their airplanes but hey...cheap ass tickets to Boise.
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I'm not sure it's the majority, but I haven't seen anything yet to suggest their model doesn't work/isn't sustainable - in fact, I'd argue the exact opposite given that some of the US3 are now acquiring used/old aircraft as well, especially on the narrowbody front. At the end of the day it's simple math - either the cash flows are better to buy and operate a new aircraft, or to buy and operate an older aircraft. It's hard to argue the model isn't working given their profitability and I think it's premature at this point to say the departure of a few execs is an indication of something inherently "wrong" or "broken" at the company. Plenty of possible reasons for exec departures.

FlyingAccountant said:
Their yields must be trash. How much money can you make flying from the middle of nowhere Montana to Vegas?
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Their yields are trash by design - they are stimulating new traffic or bottom feeding off traffic rejected by other US carriers (except for Spirit and Frontier). The only way to attract this traffic is through low fares - and it clearly works, seeing as they produce some of the highest margins in our industry.
 
Derg said:
I'm not sure I see the "ZOMG! Vegas Flights!" zeal.

Lots of passenger issues, scarce food options, takes a month to get out of the airport to the van pickup and unless you've got a sufficient layover, you're going to be blowing $50-plus on dinner and watching everyone else have a drunken good time because you've got to be up at crack 'o dawn.

Don't get too excited.
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For us, Vegas has become enough of a money-maker that we are scheduled to open a domicile there sometime later in the year. In the meantime, we recently switched hotels from a quiet one about 3/4 of a mile east of the strip with ample affordable food options nearby and a short ride to the airport to one that is 30min away and overlooks Freemont St. Now we have a bunch of overpriced novelty Vegas restaraunts and the steady thump of bass from live bands until 2am. But at least we have a free pool cabana between 9a and 7p *eyeroll*



Hulk angry.
 
etflies said:
For us, Vegas has become enough of a money-maker that we are scheduled to open a domicile there sometime later in the year. In the meantime, we recently switched hotels from a quiet one about 3/4 of a mile east of the strip with ample affordable food options nearby and a short ride to the airport to one that is 30min away and overlooks Freemont St. Now we have a bunch of overpriced novelty Vegas restaraunts and the steady thump of bass from live bands until 2am. But at least we have a free pool cabana between 9a and 7p *eyeroll*



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As @mikecweb would ask: "Is the bacon CBA compliant?"

But seriously, we're at the MGM, which is fun if you have a sufficient layover, but I liked the Ren because you were close enough to the strip and also close enough to the soulless neighborhood that is the real (newer) downtown Las Vegas with food options that weren't "Bobby Flay's Ultimate Fajita Popper Emporium" with a 90 minute wait and $12 cans of Bud Light.
 
Derg said:
As @mikecweb would ask: "Is the bacon CBA compliant?"

But seriously, we're at the MGM, which is fun if you have a sufficient layover, but I liked the Ren because you were close enough to the strip and also close enough to the soulless neighborhood that is the real (newer) downtown Las Vegas with food options that weren't "Bobby Flay's Ultimate Fajita Popper Emporium" with a 90 minute wait and $12 cans of Bud Light.
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400% markup. #winning


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BEEF SUPREME said:
400% markup. #winning


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In my college days, even if you ended up paying for a beer, which was rare, it was $2 to $4 with O'Sheas being famous for $1 beers if they even got around to actually charging you.

Now, it's "Here's your Heineken and that'll be $11.63". Crap man, make it $11 or $12 and be a man about it.
 
Derg said:
As @mikecweb would ask: "Is the bacon CBA compliant?"

But seriously, we're at the MGM, which is fun if you have a sufficient layover, but I liked the Ren because you were close enough to the strip and also close enough to the soulless neighborhood that is the real (newer) downtown Las Vegas with food options that weren't "Bobby Flay's Ultimate Fajita Popper Emporium" with a 90 minute wait and $12 cans of Bud Light.
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Strictly speaking, the new joint is CBA compliant.

Our choices now seem to be McDonald's or a stromboli and a beer for $32 whilst being bombarded by Ryan Seacrest's Top 40 on repeat.

I dunno when it happened but I've become much more "old guy" recently. I'll happily take decent food & drink in a quiet area. If I get a wild hair to go out and relive my early twenties, I know how to uber.
 
Admittedly, it's a hard market.

All I need are a couple dive bars and something eclectic/ethnic to eat and I'm happy.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
Sounds like heaven and just as hard to find...


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Yup. I'm one of those guys that where most people say "I… I… I don't want to go in there" is exactly where we're headed.

Enjoy your Irish bars and TGI Fridays, but for me, no thanks.
 
SeanD said:
It was on the local news here. The story was literally a 10 second segment. "plane fight, landed at McCarren, cops met the plane at the gate"
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It was on the news for one, or more, of the following reasons:
A. Felt like a continuation of the Airlines Fail... stories
B. 'Bad stuff thwarted' story, ie: 'good' news
C. They had video, either new or file footage
D. They were afraid that the competition had the story, perhaps with more 'facts.'
E. They could tell it in 10 sec, so it helped to up the story count
F. Slow News Day

One more reason to get your news from reputable sources on-line.
 
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