Alaska opens new SAN pilot base

Roger Roger said:
Hey man, all I’m saying is for my tiny dot on the map it’s not correct. But then again depending how it parses addresses that might be an oddity of remoteness, sparse population, and zip code divisions.
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It would just be nice to have some SA on the future possibilities. Not just being kept in the dark and fed poop 💩
 
Roger Roger said:
If it was just me and the Mrs, or the kids were younger or older, I would 100% pick up and move to CA and rent out the JNU house until I could hold JNU overnights. Commuting is expensive as •, and at our pay rates (especially on the Captain side) it’s easy to make up the difference in cost of living picking up premium or even someone else’s trash in pilot to pilot and STILL be home more. Plus you can’t beat the weather. I was off for 2 days and spent both of them shoveling 5’ of snow including as much of my roof as I could get done yesterday. Before that when I was off, it was -8° F and I had to fix 2 separate problems with our boiler.
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Oof that sounds brutal. I have turned into a weather wimp, if it is in the 50’s I’m complaining

It works for me, but I live way below my means material wise, dumpy little apt etc. I do get agitated in the difference of gross vs net, but what can you do.
 
JDean3204 said:
After the slowdown the last few years, the new hires I ran into this last month are just happy to be somewhere that their paycheck matches the name on the plane. It’s all about perspective
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We could see upgrades go to 10-13 years in 2026 if the churn pushes out the bottom seniority captains. If you’re OK with that then it’s fine. Some of us had to wait out the lost decade for a job that would allow us to retire. So we are trying to make the most of it now. If you’re in your 20s it won’t matter as long as there are no furloughs.
 
Skåning said:
Doctor Dad didn't pay for your training?
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I was referring to PFT schemes where one pays for a position in a revenue generating flight like JetU. I've never done that. Most of my training was self funded but my parents helped me out when they could. I'm not an only child. My dad helped with the first month payment on my 2005 Corolla because he didn't want to loan me his car anymore to drive to my CFI job and I couldn't afford the first month after paying the deposit on the loan. I'm still driving that car to work now.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
I was referring to PFT schemes where one pays for a position in a revenue generating flight like JetU.
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This is entirely FALSE.

It’s so sad you made this statement because you’ve been led to believe that by the radical JC members who love repeating it. They are liars. Grown adult men lying on a forum.


Sadly, you’ve fallen for it.


IRONICALLY, they are pulling the same behavior the radical right does in terms of stuff like vaccines. Where they make false videos, rumors, and it spreads like wildfire and then a guy like you believes that the vaccine is dangerous.

So thank you, to the liars of JetCareers.

To set the record straight…

You are confusing Gulfstream Academy. That was the only program known at the time to take 250 hrs in a Beech 1900 in what otherwise would be a revenue passenger flight paying $20/hr to a FO, but the Gulfstream training guys got $8-9/hr for that flight.


That is PFT.


JetU was a simple CRJ course in Florida. A 3 month course on a CRJ-200 using a level C sim. The flight school owned the property. At the end, a regional airline hiring team came down and interviewed us in Fort Lauderdale at jetU. A normal, street interview like anyone else. IF you were hired, you were hired like anyone else and were assigned a pilot newhire class date. You entered the bottom of the seniority list like anyone else and were paid the same as anyone else off the street. You are literally the same newhire as anyone else.

There is nothing PFT about this.







BEEF SUPREME said:
I've never done that. Most of my training was self funded but my parents helped me out when they could. I'm not an only child. My dad helped with the first month payment on my 2005 Corolla because he didn't want to loan me his car anymore to drive to my CFI job and I couldn't afford the first month after paying the deposit on the loan. I'm still driving that car to work now.
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You don’t have to justify your parents helping to anyone. This is just a stupid thing on JC where some clutch pearls for if you had parents help you succeed as a young adult.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
This is entirely FALSE.

It’s so sad you made this statement because you’ve been led to believe that by the radical JC members who love repeating it. Sadly, you’ve fallen for it. IRONICALLY, they are pulling the same behavior the radical right does in terms of stuff like vaccines. Where they make false videos, rumors, and it spreads like wildfire and then a guy like you believes that the vaccine is dangerous.

So thank you, to the liars of JetCareers.

To set the record straight…

You are confusing Gulfstream Academy. That was the only program known at the time to take 250 hrs in a Beech 1900 in what otherwise would be a revenue passenger flight paying $20/hr to a FO, but the Gulfstream training guys got $8-9/hr for that flight.


That is PFT.


JetU was a simple CRJ course in Florida. A 3 month course on a CRJ-200 using a level D sim. The flight school owned the property. At the end, a regional airline hiring team came down and interviewed us in Fort Lauderdale at jetU. A normal, street interview like anyone else. IF you were hired, you were hired like anyone else and were assigned a pilot newhire class date. You entered the bottom of the seniority list like anyone else and were paid the same as anyone else off the street.

There is literally nothing PFT about this.









You don’t have to justify your parents helping to anyone. This is just a stupid thing on JC where some clutch pearls for if you had parents help you succeed as a young adult.
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There was a similar program that I declined since it was a rip off. Managing the money I had made working in the trades to pay for my ratings made me value the money and 25K for sim training to get a guaranteed interview at a regional airline seemed like a terrible idea.

There is no end to the selfish behavior in this industry. You and @Skåning show up and prove that every single day.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
This is entirely FALSE.

It’s so sad you made this statement because you’ve been led to believe that by the radical JC members who love repeating it. They are liars. Grown adult men lying on a forum.


Sadly, you’ve fallen for it.


IRONICALLY, they are pulling the same behavior the radical right does in terms of stuff like vaccines. Where they make false videos, rumors, and it spreads like wildfire and then a guy like you believes that the vaccine is dangerous.

So thank you, to the liars of JetCareers.

To set the record straight…

You are confusing Gulfstream Academy. That was the only program known at the time to take 250 hrs in a Beech 1900 in what otherwise would be a revenue passenger flight paying $20/hr to a FO, but the Gulfstream training guys got $8-9/hr for that flight.


That is PFT.


JetU was a simple CRJ course in Florida. A 3 month course on a CRJ-200 using a level C sim. The flight school owned the property. At the end, a regional airline hiring team came down and interviewed us in Fort Lauderdale at jetU. A normal, street interview like anyone else. IF you were hired, you were hired like anyone else and were assigned a pilot newhire class date. You entered the bottom of the seniority list like anyone else and were paid the same as anyone else off the street. You are literally the same newhire as anyone else.

There is nothing PFT about this.









You don’t have to justify your parents helping to anyone. This is just a stupid thing on JC where some clutch pearls for if you had parents help you succeed as a young adult.
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PFJ = Pay For Job
PFT = ???
 
SteveC said:
PFJ = Pay For Job
PFT = ???
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Pay for training. Pay for job.



The lines have been muddied over the years. Paying for your own type rating to work somewhere. Or flying Beech 1900s are all gone. All irrelevant because it doesn’t exist nowadays.

What he said:

“PFT schemes where one pays for a position in a revenue generating flight like JetU.”


You don’t pay for any part of your flight school training that occupies a paid 121 seat like Gulfstream did.






JetU is really no different than going to a collegiate program like Embry, getting an airline to come to campus to interview, and then getting hired at that regional. You have no connection to that company until you are hired and sitting in ground school.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
There was a similar program that I declined since it was a rip off. Managing the money I had made working in the trades to pay for my ratings made me value the money and 25K for sim training to get a guaranteed interview at a regional airline seemed like a terrible idea.

There is no end to the selfish behavior in this industry. You and @Skåning show up and prove that every single day.
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I mean, to each their own.

I don’t think there’s anyone left on this site that went to Gulfstream. Ironically despite all the hate, literally all of them that went Gulfstream to Pinnacle are today at Delta. I flew with a lot of them, they were good decent folks.




What selfish behavior? Am I supposed to downgrade myself to help you stay in your seat? Not sure what you want me to do.
 
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