Alaska Engine Failure

Capt. Chaos

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Alaska jet makes emergency landing in JuneauAn Alaska Airlines jet made an emergency landing at Juneau's airport Sunday night.Fire dispatch says they were notified at 10:18 and sent fire engines to the airport.The pilot landed the plane safely at about 11:10, according to airport officials. The pilot had reported engine failure.Flight 731 with 160 passengers and 6 crew on board was enroute to Anchorage from Seattle when it diverted to the airport here. The airline's Marianne Lindsey tell us that the plane was near Ketchikan when the number two, or right side engine, shut down. She says the 737-900, one of their newer planes, is designed to fly on one engine. She says their pilots followed standard procedure and declared an emergency. Lindsey says she knows of no similar incidents with the new aircraft. She says technicians in Juneau are inspecting the plane, but no cause for the problem has been determined at lasts report. The airline rebooked passengers flights to Anchorage Monday.
 
Alaska jet makes emergency landing in JuneauAn Alaska Airlines jet made an emergency landing at Juneau's airport Sunday night.Fire dispatch says they were notified at 10:18 and sent fire engines to the airport.The pilot landed the plane safely at about 11:10, according to airport officials. The pilot had reported engine failure.Flight 731 with 160 passengers and 6 crew on board was enroute to Anchorage from Seattle when it diverted to the airport here. The airline's Marianne Lindsey tell us that the plane was near Ketchikan when the number two, or right side engine, shut down. She says the 737-900, one of their newer planes, is designed to fly on one engine. She says their pilots followed standard procedure and declared an emergency. Lindsey says she knows of no similar incidents with the new aircraft. She says technicians in Juneau are inspecting the plane, but no cause for the problem has been determined at lasts report. The airline rebooked passengers flights to Anchorage Monday.

I love this quote, it almost implies that the older ones won't.
 
I'm proud to say that when we popped one in cruise a couple months ago not only did it not make the news, the passengers didn't even know. Simply a "precautionary landing" due to an "indication problem".
I hope I can pull that one day if the prop isn't spinning. Uh... yeah, N1 appears to be indicating 0... this landing is uh... precautionary. Don't mind the feathered prop.
 
I hope I can pull that one day if the prop isn't spinning. Uh... yeah, N1 appears to be indicating 0... this landing is uh... precautionary. Don't mind the feathered prop.
Haha you might have to fine tune your PA for a prop, maybe a "precautionary shutdown for an indication issue" or something...people like when we do things on purpose not when stuff just happens...make's 'em feel like we are more in control. Go-arounds are another good example, I always tell the folks we elected to go-around rather than simply responding to an ATC instruction.
 
Haha you might have to fine tune your PA for a prop, maybe a "precautionary shutdown for an indication issue" or something...people like when we do things on purpose not when stuff just happens...make's 'em feel like we are more in control. Go-arounds are another good example, I always tell the folks we elected to go-around rather than simply responding to an ATC instruction.
Well considering the people in back have direct access to me, and probably have about as much time in the back of an airplane as I have in front... it's going to be a tough sell.
 
Well considering the people in back have direct access to me, and probably have about as much time in the back of an airplane as I have in front... it's going to be a tough sell.
Sounds like Alaska...did I miss you moving up north?
 
Haha you might have to fine tune your PA for a prop, maybe a "precautionary shutdown for an indication issue" or something...people like when we do things on purpose not when stuff just happens...make's 'em feel like we are more in control. Go-arounds are another good example, I always tell the folks we elected to go-around rather than simply responding to an ATC instruction.

Or you could just tell people the truth. "We've had a problem with the left/right engine, the engine has failed/been shut down. We'll be landing at the nearest airport, standby for further instructions." I want my passengers aware of what's going on. If I lose an engine, and land someplace, I want them to be prepared if something even more abnormal happens. Same with a go-around: "well folks, the weather is too crummy to land, we're going to hold up here for a little while then try it again if it gets better, otherwise we're going to be heading to our alternate airport." People can tell when you're BS-ing them, nothing wrong with telling your passengers the truth - even if it's news they'd rather not know.
 
Or you could just tell people the truth. "We've had a problem with the left/right engine, the engine has failed/been shut down. We'll be landing at the nearest airport, standby for further instructions." I want my passengers aware of what's going on. If I lose an engine, and land someplace, I want them to be prepared if something even more abnormal happens. Same with a go-around: "well folks, the weather is too crummy to land, we're going to hold up here for a little while then try it again if it gets better, otherwise we're going to be heading to our alternate airport." People can tell when you're BS-ing them, nothing wrong with telling your passengers the truth - even if it's news they'd rather not know.
After working with the public even on small 50 passenger aircraft, you realize quickly people in a herd panic real fast. If you do it right you can spin it.

Take this example, delayed at the end of the runway for 10 minutes for flow.

Do you:

A) (Said in a slightly depressed tone) "Folks, some bad news, ATC has a delay to PHL"
Moans and cries in back.
"Looks like our departure time is in 9-10 minutes"

B) (Said in a slightly enthusiastic tone) "Folks, some good news. ATC has given us a departure time in 10 minutes, and we'll still be on time".
Smiles in back, because it's "good news!".

(A) happened while I was deadheading in back, was on a mainline aircraft nonetheless, you could have cut the tension with a knife in the 10 seconds between both PAs. People were swearing. Out loud.

Even a simple thing like having the APU broken freaks people out. Seriously. All they hear is "engine" and "broken" and they are toast. If you don't say anything the business travelers get nervous, so you have to say something, but just make it positive. That has been my experience working at the commuters.

We had some instances here where guys were giving the brace command on landing with a flaps failure. This was a completely normal landing for all concerned, even the pilots, albeit a slightly longer one. Really not a huge deal, and no reason what so ever (IMO) to scare people needlessly. If you roll the trucks yes you want to let people know, but there is a point where you can be too honest and really scare people.
 
Passengers are a dumb breed. I have stories over beer.
"Why didn't you warn us about all the bumps?" - "Cause they weren't on the map."
"Thanks for your great communication (in a sarcastic tone), thanks to you I missed my connection." -"Mam, we opened the door 2 minutes after our scheduled arrival time, plus we are in a new time zone. You need to plan better."

I'm a PR nightmare. I'm polite (mostly because I'm foreign), but I don't take crap from passengers.


Glad to see the Alaska Jet made it into Juneau safely. The guys probably wanted some fish and chips from the Sandbar. (thanks Roger)
 
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