Airmen Sound off on Stupid Rules

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There are many.

Here's the article: http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2009/06/airforce_stupid_rules_062809/



Our very own Germb747 was cited in the article.

The dumbest rule in the AF is the pee test. We should be given the option to submit to a blood test instead. Not only is a blood test more accurate, reliable and indisputable; it preserves the dignity of airmen more than being forced to watch people urinating in a cup.
— germb747



Here's FF's contribution: The reg about sunglasses not being worn on the head is retarded. FF OUT.
 
They cut out a good portion of my original post. Anyway, the whole drug demand reduction program is based on having to prove one's innocence on a regular basis with no probable cause to indicate wrongdoing has occurred or one's performance has declined. No, I don't do illegal drugs, but I don't buy a guilty until proven innocent approach.
 
LoadMasterC141 said:
Obviously Basic Training and OTS has become a bit more soft. You should be brainwashed by now.
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Basic training has definitley gone soft. There are all kinds of videos on youtube from Air Force basic. When I went through, all our electronic goodies, were confiscated on the first night, and not returned until we were about to board the bus for tech school.
 
All that being said, I have no desire to do a "Warrier Week". I thought basic was pretty easy without it 13 years ago. I am not a warrier, nor am I a "warfighter" or have a desire to use "Hooah" as hello, yes?, goodbye and heck yeah! (no offense Army folks, that's your thing :)). I am an aircraft mechanic and I am inspired enough to be a good NCO everytime I see my aircraft depart and return safely.

My favorite stupid rule isn't really a rule itself. There are people that think that a Tech Order needs to be out and read for things like checking oil. Really? I've put gas in my car many times without referring directly to written guidance. How is that possible? (:sarcasm:) I understand the need for such guidance. I just don't understand why I need to read it every time. There are some tasks that can be done safely without it. I've seen plenty of people screw up tasks WITH the guidance in front of them. Ok, I'm gonna go count to 10 and breath...
 
falconvalley said:
All that being said, I have no desire to do a "Warrier Week". I thought basic was pretty easy without it 13 years ago. I am not a warrier, nor am I a "warfighter" or have a desire to use "Hooah" as hello, yes?, goodbye and heck yeah! (no offense Army folks, that's your thing :)). I am an aircraft mechanic and I am inspired enough to be a good NCO everytime I see my aircraft depart and return safely.
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Same thing with the PFT that the AF can't seem to figure out, and how they truly want everyone to be a 150lb-soaking-wet, 32 inch waistline marathon runner. Lots of good that does in combat. And is it even really needed for someone who's primarily a tech expert of some kind. Sure, there has to be standards of some kind and people should look professional and presentable, but loosen them up some.

My favorite stupid rule isn't really a rule itself. There are people that think that a Tech Order needs to be out and read for things like checking oil. Really? I've put gas in my car many times without referring directly to written guidance. How is that possible? (:sarcasm:) I understand the need for such guidance. I just don't understand why I need to read it every time. There are some tasks that can be done safely without it. I've seen plenty of people screw up tasks WITH the guidance in front of them. Ok, I'm gonna go count to 10 and breath...
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It's standard AF overreaction to nearly everything. Ever since some stab rods got connected up wrong in the mid-90s on that Spang C-model Eagle, and the plane crashed on it's second takeoff, killing the pilot, there's been all sorts of movement to make everything single little thing a checklist. That was the accident where they court-martialed the two that worked on the system, and the one MX guy committed suicide. By strange coincidence, the other MX guy got out of the AF and was killed later in a convenience store robbery IIRC.
 
MikeD said:
Same thing with the PFT that the AF can't seem to figure out, and how they truly want everyone to be a 150lb-soaking-wet, 32 inch waistline marathon runner. Lots of good that does in combat. And is it even really needed for someone who's primarily a tech expert of some kind. Sure, there has to be standards of some kind and people should look professional and presentable, but loosen them up some.
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Yeah man, don't even get me started on that crap. I'm big on running, but even I realize that it's not for everone. And even if I'm running 60 miles a week, do you think I'm gonna hit 32 inches? Uh, no. :(


MikeD said:
It's standard AF overreaction to nearly everything. Ever since some stab rods got connected up wrong in the mid-90s on that Spang C-model Eagle, and the plane crashed on it's second takeoff, killing the pilot, there's been all sorts of movement to make everything single little thing a checklist. That was the accident where they court-martialed the two that worked on the system, and the one MX guy committed suicide. By strange coincidence, the other MX guy got out of the AF and was killed later in a convenience store robbery IIRC.
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What is it they say? Everytime someone poops their pants, the entire AF has to wear a diaper?
 
germb747 said:
They cut out a good portion of my original post. Anyway, the whole drug demand reduction program is based on having to prove one's innocence on a regular basis with no probable cause to indicate wrongdoing has occurred or one's performance has declined. No, I don't do illegal drugs, but I don't buy a guilty until proven innocent approach.
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I dunno, I've seen two officers go down after popping positive during a random, both with TS clearances none the less, and another O-4 Sel get popped but beat it at Court Martial. You get randoms in the civil world as well. Not sure why the military doesn't do the hair test which should work for most with the exception of Marines and boots.
 
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