Airline guys eat your heart out :P

Snow said:
This is what I was doing last Sunday, and no that wasn't in a simulator, it was while returning from Houston and dodgeing a FL600 TS over Lousiana. :insane:
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While impressive, I definately have you beat. Last Sunday I was sitting around in shorts and sandles drinking beer. Touche. :yar:
 
Kingairer said:
Ive flown through a few earthquakes, not many can say that.
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Wouldn't that be flown "OVER" a few earthquakes rather than "THROUGH"? Or should I be looking at NTSB reports?


(And if it really is "through"....you'd of thunk you'd learn after the first one, right?)
 
seagull said:
....Otherwise, the truth is that the best altitude for thunderstorm avoidance is FL 250, for a lot of reasons.
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C650CPT said:
I also agree with your 250 satement that really tells what a cell is doing.
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Would you guys mind expounding on that thought some more?
 
fish314 said:
Wouldn't that be flown "OVER" a few earthquakes rather than "THROUGH"? Or should I be looking at NTSB reports?


(And if it really is "through"....you'd of thunk you'd learn after the first one, right?)
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o you guys crack me up.
 
Let me clarify....I should have said towering cumulous clouds with tops reaching FL250 and FL300 respectfully.:insane:

C650CPT said:
Totally different ... No C130 or P-3 flew through a T-Storm. The sheer in a hurricane is horizontal not vertical like a T-Storm

Jim
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I was under the impression that a hurricane is made up of thunderstorm cells, especially in the outer bands. I guess I was wrong.

Neil
 
it is supposed to show that his heading was 070....that is EXTREME!!!


I also noticed that he was at FL47, but that isnt as important
 
Rest assured, I know the difference between "red" on the radar and being in a thunderstorm. In fact, the times it happened to me, there was NOTHING on the radar, which shouldn't be too surprising!
 
seagull said:
All the hurricanes and typhoons I've flown in the vicinity of had plenty of thunderstorms imbedded in them. ALL of them, and there's been quite a few.
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Hmm. . . this is a tough one.

As a weather professional, not all hurricanes have "thunder storms." All hurricanes are warm core systems, lacking the cold air aloft that creates hail, which creates the electrical charges to interact with the earth, in turn, not producing lightening, etc.

Some on the other hand, manage to bust the trop and create their own uninhibited rising environment where it doesn't matter if it's a cold or warm core system. Hail can and will be generated, allowing the electrical charges within the various embedded storms to interact with the earth, producing the lightening, etc. These are few and far between. For sh1ts and giggles, the next landfall we have here in the states. . . find a lightening detection website and see how few LTG strikes you actually see associated with the tropical storm or hurricane (w/in 150-100NM of the core - outside of 150NM individual TS can produce LTG thanks to increase upper level divergence available from a 500 to 300mb High providing the exhaust mechanism.
 
surreal1221 said:
Hmm. . . this is a tough one.

As a weather professional, not all hurricanes have "thunder storms." All hurricanes are warm core systems, lacking the cold air aloft that creates hail, which creates the electrical charges to interact with the earth, in turn, not producing lightening, etc.

Some on the other hand, manage to bust the trop and create their own uninhibited rising environment where it doesn't matter if it's a cold or warm core system. Hail can and will be generated, allowing the electrical charges within the various embedded storms to interact with the earth, producing the lightening, etc. These are few and far between. For sh1ts and giggles, the next landfall we have here in the states. . . find a lightening detection website and see how few LTG strikes you actually see associated with the tropical storm or hurricane (w/in 150-100NM of the core - outside of 150NM individual TS can produce LTG thanks to increase upper level divergence available from a 500 to 300mb High providing the exhaust mechanism.
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:yeahthat:

:D
 
Doug Taylor said:
Touche!

But I can have a 56 year old flight attendant that reeks of cat pee bring me a tonic water and a bag of peanuts! Ha!

Wait... I've got to have a valid counterpoint in order to use 'touche'...

Ehhh, nevermind.
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Your a Mac?
 
Well, most of my experience has been with typhoons, but at work I have both the radar and lightning detection turned on, and watch them both. I suppose there is less within 150 miles of the core, but there seem to usually be some, and, as you said, a lot associated with the storm outside of that. I know that I have witnessed a lot of thunderstorm activity with the typhoons I've been around in SE Asia, but was not paying attention to how close to the core that was. As I said, just personal observation flying around them on many routes. I suppose that by virtue of the fact that we're flying around them, we would be where the TS are.

I will need to talk to my friend, one of our pilots, who flew hurricane hunters in the AF after she left being a meteorologist on them for NOAA. She might have a little expertise in this subject area!
 
DE727UPS said:
"Airline guys eat your heart out :P"

Hey Snow, $190/hr with a 75 hour guarantee....eat YOUR heart out.
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Here it is again since you may have missed it the first time UPS

Corporate pilot: "Hey Delta 475, how's the weather down there?"
Airline pilot: "A little choppy, how's the pay up there?" :P

Nuff said...

Oh and btw, I wasn't flying through a FL600 TS at FL470! I was circumnavagating it by at least 20nm or more. The advantage of flying that high, other than low fuel burn and no traffic. Is you can see and AVOID thunderstorms. Just 2-4000ft below us was the blow off from the storms making a kinda high altitude haze/overcast layer.

That first photo is of the FL600 TS as we gave it about a 30nm leeway. You can see the blowoff layer masking off lower parts of it. Second pic is a little more close and personal, but it was a small thunderstorm and we were well above and away from it.
 
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