Aircraft Purchase

If I sell my car, I may be able to afford this ...

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Mooney Eagle or Ovation. You can get a 2000 Ovation for 250k. That plane will do 180kts on 15-17gph and carries 89 gallons usable fuel. Sturdiest little airplane in the sky. Mooney is the perfect plane for 1 or 2 people with bags. More than that and you have to start offloading fuel.
 
C182. You can do your flight training in it and it will fit your needs well after (unless you are made of money).
 
Hello -

I am getting ready to purchase an IFR equipped C152/C150 for my flight training (PPL and IFR). After that I'd like to sell the Cessna for another plane that is more in line with my needs.

My flying will involve trips of about 600-700NM each way (east coast), with the occassional 1200+NM trip (east coast to mid west). I'll either be flying alone or with one passenger, with one large suitcase a piece and an occassional set of golf cubs.

What aircraft would you all recommend? I'll be the only pilot, so something that is easy to fly as single pilot IFR would be great. I'd like to stay away from twin engine planes at the moment. I'd like to keep the price below $350,000.

Thanks,
Lance

Three words - BO-NAN-ZA!

Seriously though, I say take some time as you climb the ratings ladder. You'll be flying over some very inhospitable terrain in an area where weather is made. Those ridges often start unstable airmasses upwards to build into major storms and even just a windy day can present real challenges as it passes over all those ridges. You'll need to take your time and work to gain some experience, lest you become a "100 knot pilot in a 150 knot airplane". That mixture is an accident waiting to happen. You can't ever let an airplane take you somewhere your brain hasn't already been.


Good luck and be careful.
 
Cirrus SR22!! You might find a used one at $350K. Mooney's are also fast.
C182 is a classic but you can do slightly better fuel-wise. Consider a Grumman AA5B
Tiger. The Tiger is fuel efficient but not a stellar performer on short runways.
 
Yes...Mooney is complex due to C/S prop and retractable gear. Some may
also be high performance (>200 hp).
 
Hello -

I am getting ready to purchase an IFR equipped C152/C150 for my flight training (PPL and IFR). After that I'd like to sell the Cessna for another plane that is more in line with my needs.

I think you'd be happier with a little larger airplane that will satisfy most of your requirements while you are getting your instrument rating, but still be able to be insured by a student pilot when you get started. A basic 4 seat model will fit that bill nicely: C-172, PA-28, AA-5, etc.

Another factor to think about is finding a CFI who can give you private pilot lessons in your chosen steed. If you pick a basic model, you shouldn't have trouble. When you start getting into things like Staggerwings and C-182s you may have trouble. I owned an AA-1 for many years and my wife started taking lessons in it. We had to search all over the county for a CFI who had 10 hrs in type to satisfy my insurance company's minimums. We finally found a guy 50 miles away who qualified and was willing to teach in it.

You'll also want to have a discussion with your insurance company about soloing your new bird. Find out what their requirements are for the airplane you choose. The more ramp appeal an airplane has, the less likely that your insurance company will want you to solo it. I remember reading an article about a gal who was learning to fly in a T-6. They were built for flight training, but after she had amassed 95 hrs of dual (if memory serves), her insurance company still wanted her to have more instruction before she was allowed to solo it.
 
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Just make sure you get a REALLY big pan to put under the engine to catch all of the oil that drips out.....

Michael is correct. I have been around more round engines than flat ones so I will say this - if you ever approach a radial engine equiped airplane to fly, and it has been sitting for more than 30 minutes and there is not a puddle of black gold underneath...add oil, it is out.
 
The airplane you buy depends on more than numbers; it should suit your personality, physique, skills, age, and above all it should meet your standards for the kind of equipment you use in life.

All that aside, it's a noble goal to fly yourself, and learning to fly is a great idea for fun, but owner-pilot GA is obsolete as personal transportation on the east coast.

If you read Flying magazine, check into the experiences of Richard Collins and Dick Karl. They pretty much exemplify the kinds of missions that owner pilots like to think themselves capable of flying, and that, back in the day, made a lot of sense. They're both selling: Collins sold; Karl should have when he had the chance. I sold mine last month, after years of doing exactly the missions you are talking about. It just didn't add up anymore. In fact, strictly speaking, it never made financial sense; but now, you have high fuel costs, Lockheed-Martin corruption and ineptitude, unreasonable airport fees and policies, insurance costs (which frighteningly enough represent the real actuarial risk of the GA enterprise), crazy hangar costs, airport "security", nonsensical routings, TFRs, the NOTAM system from the 1850s, and in general the joys of dealing with a U.S. government that acts like the Cowardly Lion.

Let's just say that if you're on the east coast, you're better off with a fractional. A Pilatus would work nicely....
 
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