Airbus UpNext Robo A350

SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
You’re vastly underestimating how quickly this technology is developing.
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tcco94 said:
And how quick is that? You act like this was created a year ago and ignored everything else I said. Me thinks this is a good justification for you to defend you leaving industry, so go ahead and ride it out how this tech is developing faster than everyone knows.
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SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
I left the industry almost a decade ago, long before AI was even in its infancy in useful applications, so it clearly had nothing to do with that. Besides, I don’t need a “justification” for leaving. I wanted to leave, so I did. Pretty simple.

As far as how quickly? Breakneck speed. Just ten years ago, it was difficult to develop machine learning that could beat a human at a single kind of game. Now that’s child’s play, and machine learning that can mimic a human copyrighter is not only commercially available, it’s available for free. Cars drive themselves on complicated city streets. Etc.

Will pilots be obsolete in 30 years? No. Will their obsolescence be well under way and many jobs already lost? Almost certainly. But it’s not just your job, it’s also mine, lawyers, doctors, etc. No one is really safe. The safest jobs will be those for skilled manual labor, because that requires complex and expensive hardwire, while most other work just requires software.

@Yakob may be an alarmist on a great many things, but he’s not wrong about this.

Teslas are statistically six times safer than other vehicles on a pro rata basis. The stats are publicly available.
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SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
The comfort will be eased along by the slow transition. They'll start off with single pilot, then eventually get to pilotless. People will get comfortable first with only one pilot, then once they're good with that, an easier transition to none. Each generation is more comfortable than the last with trusting tech. By 30 years from now, the boomers will be gone, the millennials will be retired, and the Gen Zs and As will be the people making the purchasing decisions, and they won't give a damn.
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I duunno @SlumTodd_Millionaire, I keep hearing you guys say that the tech upfront in a 121 plane is ancient, and light years behind what's in a 91 or 135 business jet. Especially the "big bodied" ones. But we're supposed to believe that they're going to put this new tech in 121 planes, inside 10-20 yrs.? I dunno man. NEXTGEN for ATC hasn't even been installed yet, their still using 30 yr. old scopes and its been prophesied to be coming about as long, maybe or longer than the second coming of Christ. Is it coming, single pilot 121 and eventually full on automation, yes. Will I probably see it as a 121 pilot, doubtful. Gen Z & Gen A, magic 8 ball sez, "It looks likely."

derg said:
If they replaced my copilot with a robot, I’m just saying, that’d be fine with me.

Ambivert Gen-X’ers unite! Separately, of course. Text is best. Preferably not green bubble because all you’re going to see is ”Emphasized” LOL
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Shaaaaaaade!!!
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
I duunno @SlumTodd_Millionaire, I keep hearing you guys say that the tech upfront in a 121 plane is ancient, and light years behind what's in a 91 or 135 business jet. Especially the "big bodied" ones. But we're supposed to believe that they're going to put this new tech in 121 planes, inside 10-20 yrs.? I dunno man. NEXTGEN for ATC hasn't even been installed yet, their still using 30 yr. old scopes and its been prophesied to be coming about as long, maybe or longer than the second coming of Christ. Is it coming, single pilot 121 and eventually full on automation, yes. Will I probably see it as a 121 pilot, doubtful. Gen Z & Gen A, magic 8 ball sez, "It looks likely."
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There’s a difference between tech that makes a pilot’s life easier and tech that saves an airline money.
 
The reason tech is so behind in airliners is mostly because airlines have no interest in investing in it or those options. They generally buy the bare bones minimum. It will save in payroll but what is the cost of all this software, technology, safety, security and yearly upkeep for it? No one knows. That’s probably going to be the big argument for a while.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
There’s a difference between tech that makes a pilot’s life easier and tech that saves an airline money.
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tcco94 said:
The reason tech is so behind in airliners is mostly because airlines have no interest in investing in it or those options. They generally buy the bare bones minimum. It will save in payroll but what is the cost of all this software, technology, safety, security and yearly upkeep for it? No one knows. That’s probably going to be the big argument for a while.
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You're both arguing my point. Thanks.

@tcco94 I do hope that you wake up tomorrow morning. Your dog would miss you.
 
Once all the deep ocean cargo ships are automated flying likely wouldn’t be far behind. But I imagine that figuring out a ship that moves 15 knots in a two dimensions is “easier” than flying.
 
scooter2525 said:
Once all the deep ocean cargo ships are automated flying likely wouldn’t be far behind. But I imagine that figuring out a ship that moves 15 knots in a two dimensions is “easier” than flying.
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There are already tests in progress for deep water vessels. But this will likely not eliminate all of the crew. Its primary purpose is safety, notably collision avoidance, specifically when approaching choke points. Ports and straits and heavily controlled, but at a certain distance, 15-50 miles out, it's commonly chaos.
 
One pilot to control, or monitor, the aircraft like a drone while in the terminal area, autonomous when outside the terminal area and in the national airspace system.
 
No one is talking about the infrastructure to make this level of AI a reality. Not only that the people who can fix the infrastructure. The blue collar tech worker that doesn’t even exist right now.


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SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
There’s a difference between tech that makes a pilot’s life easier and tech that saves an airline money.
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This. Came here to say this. The technology’s existed to operate an airliner single pilot for at least a decade. But because people are dumb and go the extra mile to do dumb things there’s no reason to pay more for that technology when the FAA won’t let airlines operate single pilot. And I don’t blame them. When a CJ or Phenom crashes it’s a footnote on the local news. When even a CRJ goes down it’s the lead story.
 
SlumTodd_Millionaire said:
The question isn’t about whether pilots will still be needed. The question is how many. Yes, airplanes with flight engineers were still around for years after I started my career. But that didn’t mean that a whole hell of a lot of flight engineer jobs hadn’t been decimated.
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All I know is that once the tech is considered good enough for single pilot it will also be good enough for zero pilots.
 
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