Airbus / JetBlue / Long Beach question!

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The main runway at Long Beach is closed for several days this summer ... because of this, JetBlue has announced that their trans-con flights out of Long Beach (e.g. JFK, Boston, Ft. Lauderdale, Washington) will be making a fuel stop enroute on these days since the planes will not be able to leave Long Beach fully loaded with fuel.

Question ... the runway that will become the main runway at Long Beach during the construction is 6192' usable. Are the A-320's really unable to take-off fully loaded with that distance? Yeah, it's short, but I'm comparing it to Orange County, which is just up the road ... their main runway is 5700' usable and 757's and 737-800's take off from there daily on trans-con flights seemingly with no restrictions or problems. A-300's, 310's, and 767's also take off daily from the 5700' foot runway at KSNA as do numerous Airbus aircraft for Northwest and United (none go cross country, though). Is this a JetBlue thing or are comparbly and heavier Boeing built aircraft really able to get off the ground in a shorter distance than an Airbus?
 
Everything in aircraft design is a tradeoff. Why do you think Airbus burns less fuel the an NG 737?
 
I know the FedEx aircraft (the 310 and occasionally 300 [or so I hear]) takes of very light, as it only goes to PHX. There is no 767 using SNA.

I am not sure what they are exactly doing at LGB. But I have heard that the A320 is sometime an exciting ride out of SNA, due to the runway length.
 
I'm from long beach and actually live less than one mile off the departure end of 30. I'm not to familiar with the construction since i'm off at school for the semester, but I would think it's probably a good idea for them to be less than full taking off on the dinky runways (in comparison that is lol). Then you have to consider noise abatement so annoying in LB and other things like buildings and such. I don't think it'll be that big a deal. ^_^ If anyone has a better answer post it! I don't know much about Airbusses so it'd be kinda cool to get some more insight
 
That's not much runway for a big load. I'm not surprised at all. Remember it's not just about runway length but also they look beyond the end of the runway for obstacle clearance, engine out. Often it's that climb limit weight that gets you, and I looked at the chart and saw obstacles noted off both ends of that runway.

I have no doubt that a 737-800 could not takeoff from that runway "fully loaded" and go to NYC.

757, maybe. It is a muscle airplane. Other twin engine wide bodies, no way.
 
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UPS brings a 767 into SNA once a day.


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Sorry bud, thats a "Heavy" Boeing 757! FEDEX brings a A310.


Adding to SNA, it would be nice if they extended that runway. They could do two things:
#1 extend the runway out to the golf course and run it over the 73 freeway
#2 get rid of the overnight parking area and start the ruwnay before the freeway and run an overpass over the 405.

Neither would ever work because Newport Beach doesn't want any larger airplanes and the county provision to bring bigger planes(they are refered to as aircraft with maximum amount of seats in the county documents) prohibits airplanes with more than a specific amount of seats.
Additionally SNA is locked in a legal contract with the amount of airplanes it is allowed to handled. Part of the newport deal!


You know the funny thing, most of those newport beach people are never home anyways, they're out shopping at Neiman Marcus
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You know the funny thing, most of those newport beach people are never home anyways, they're out shopping at Neiman Marcus
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Hehe, good old Newport Beach for ya....but Costa Mesa Rawks Dude!!
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