Tyler Pinkerton
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I take it Neptune never got back to ya?
Air Wisconsin UAL CPA
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Only had openings for captains this yearI take it Neptune never got back to ya?
Table Two
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Most crew members live near the Mid-Atlantic bases or at least in the Eastern time zone, so most will have to start commuting/driving. I think IAD will go senior over ORD.
Only a small percentage of the remaining senior Captains are around ORD, very few if any FO's around the Lakes region.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
I wish I had a ground call horn. Probably the thing I miss the most about the 175.
Wild gesticulation and the flashing of a landing light just doesn't work so well.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
With engines owned by SkyWest Leasing, no doubt?
guywhoflies
Y'NO WUT IM SAYIN
A good number of people moved to ORF, DCA, and PHL. It will be interesting to see if those people originally from the Midwest will move back there.
As a new hire, I think you should be able to get whatever base you want since AWA is so short staffed. They are under 500 active pilots so they will be trying to hire 200+ to cover the 65 planes for United.
v1valarob
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Air Whiskey has less than 500 pilots on property?!
ozziecat35
4 out of 5 great lakes prefer Michigan.
According to the Angry Pilot forum threads, yes. Something like 20-40 resignations a month, with maybe 1 or 2 per new "class."
Zidac
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Sounds like XJT.
JDean3204
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I am guessing the ORF base will go bye bye now. That is a bummer because I would gladly quit my current gig, and go fly a -200 based out of ORF with the new bonus and jump in wages... I loved living in Virginia Beach and would have considered Whiskey last year if they were in a better state at the time. Good thing I Didn't, I'd be a commuter for sure! 
learhawkerbe400
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I am guessing the ORF base will go bye bye now. That is a bummer because I would gladly quit my current gig, and go fly a -200 based out of ORF with the new bonus and jump in wages... I loved living in Virginia Beach and would have considered Whiskey last year if they were in a better state at the time. Good thing I Didn't, I'd be a commuter for sure!
They said they're going to try and keep their current MX bases, which norfolk is. I wouldn't be surprised if it stayed a small base.
Stryker172
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The past six months or so have been pretty ugly.
Zapphod Beblebrox
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I have a slightly different take on Air Whisky going to UAL. My take is that Doug Parker screwed up big time. When Scott Kirby was VP at US / American he was responsible for all the fee for departure business. Scott knew that privately held Air Whisky wanted a contract that would keep the business going. Kirby was the guy that negotiated with the regionals so he knows them inside out. Scott also knows that with lower fuel cost and particularly lower lease costs, like 2/3 lower, the 50 seat regional market is still alive and kicking.
5 years ago the pundits were all predicting that there wouldn't be any 50 regional airliners working. Fuel was just too expensive and the aircraft were not efficient. Management doesn't care about efficiency, management cares about COST. If fuel prices are low and the lessors can be bent over the barrel, the 50 seater still has a market. For the lessor, it was take the deal or the airplane goes to the desert.
Kirby made this pronouncement several years ago in an analyst's call in response to a question about the future of 50 seat RJ flying. Kirby was correct and his analysis of the market place was spot on. He jumped at the chance to secure some needed feed and at probably very attractive rates for that lift. Parker wasn't watching and now he has to replace a significant amount of lift (66 airplanes). Piedmont, PSA and Envoy can't immediately replace that flying.
5 years ago the pundits were all predicting that there wouldn't be any 50 regional airliners working. Fuel was just too expensive and the aircraft were not efficient. Management doesn't care about efficiency, management cares about COST. If fuel prices are low and the lessors can be bent over the barrel, the 50 seater still has a market. For the lessor, it was take the deal or the airplane goes to the desert.
Kirby made this pronouncement several years ago in an analyst's call in response to a question about the future of 50 seat RJ flying. Kirby was correct and his analysis of the market place was spot on. He jumped at the chance to secure some needed feed and at probably very attractive rates for that lift. Parker wasn't watching and now he has to replace a significant amount of lift (66 airplanes). Piedmont, PSA and Envoy can't immediately replace that flying.
wheelsup
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You realize AWAC going to UAL is just replacing the feed that XJT does now, right?
UAL didn't need the feed, they already had it.
learhawkerbe400
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Ehh, they're down to 50 or so planes flying. That's a drop in the bucket and will be easily picked up by the wholly owneds. Worst case scenario they have to delay parking any mainline planes or bring some out of the desert.
BigZ
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So I applied to the Air Whiskey Airman trainee thing while racking up the hours (last couple of months in a 172 = contract jet sic time in a year. Tiresome stuff). Update hours once a month, rake in the $100 of dough and AA flying bennies. Why not.
The uniform is obviously cooler than Skywest
Expecting junior ORD which is what I need
Word Wisconsin brings all sorts of good memories and so forth
Anyways. Applied on Monday expecting some sort of an interview back and forth process.
Got an email this afternoon with a list of pilot interview sessions to pick from. There's one on Friday in ORD, rest are all in Philly and I don't go to Philly unless handsomely paid to do so. Fine, was planning to be in ORD anyways, will adjust my plans by a day, no biggie.
Onto the logbook updating (ugh), looking up the rest of the required stuff...
Crap. Apparently even for the trainee thing they need a 1st class medical within the past 12 months and it's been ten years since the last time I got one (to see what's involved), been riding on 2nd class last few years.
Hence the question - write to the random recruiting coordinator girl fessing up and making an a$$ out of myself because I will be travelling tomorrow and won't have the time to get a 1st class, or barge into the interview as is and do the splaining there? Choices choices.
The uniform is obviously cooler than Skywest
Expecting junior ORD which is what I need
Word Wisconsin brings all sorts of good memories and so forth
Anyways. Applied on Monday expecting some sort of an interview back and forth process.
Got an email this afternoon with a list of pilot interview sessions to pick from. There's one on Friday in ORD, rest are all in Philly and I don't go to Philly unless handsomely paid to do so. Fine, was planning to be in ORD anyways, will adjust my plans by a day, no biggie.
Onto the logbook updating (ugh), looking up the rest of the required stuff...
Crap. Apparently even for the trainee thing they need a 1st class medical within the past 12 months and it's been ten years since the last time I got one (to see what's involved), been riding on 2nd class last few years.
Hence the question - write to the random recruiting coordinator girl fessing up and making an a$$ out of myself because I will be travelling tomorrow and won't have the time to get a 1st class, or barge into the interview as is and do the splaining there? Choices choices.