Air India plane crash

knot4u said:
I've done the ops test on Bombardier Global RATs in the hangar, it requires special equipment, it's loud and sounds like a really big R/C airplane. I've never heard one deployed while an airplane is airborne.
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We deployed it on the C-5 during flight test. I recall that they are pretty noisy inside the airplane but couldn't tell you if it was that loud outside or if you could hear it over the engines.
 
Richman said:
Simply don’t understand why people fail to see this distinction.

“Won’t” does not equal “can’t”
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I can only imagine what it was like in the early days of the EFB what was found when some of the oldsters started retiring!
 
ChasenSFO said:
They did veer left away from most of the urban area, I'm not sure they had lateral control vs just drifting while trying to stay airborne. Plus they were at a nose high attitude.
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What happened had nothing to do with any avoiding of any urban area. This airplane was nose up and increasing more nose up as it fell. No way did they see what they hit at the end.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Was talking about this on the last trip. It's like everyone has to have a theory (I'm no exception). Except nothing really quite fits. Take the C/A seat theory. AFAIK, the RAT doesn't deploy (if indeed it did deploy) just cause the thrust levers went to idle. Every other obvious explanation has at least one equally obvious hole in it, AFAICT.

What *is* maybe interesting is how the theories championed by the Certain seem to reflect their predispositions. Like, some people are pretty sure these goofy Indian pilots screwed up, somehow. Others are equally sure that Boeing builds crap airplanes and this will somehow come back to Neutron Jack, etc.

Witness the fact that now people are making up AAIB reports. Another harbinger of the Post-Truth World.
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At a certain point, we need to break out our wallets. If I were handicapping this horse race, I would box A and B for the Exacta.

A. Bonehead piloting
B. Bonehead piloting + survivable MX
C. Unsurvivable MX
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I have a feeling if it was C, we would have heard by now. Just a guess. Time will tell.
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Someone already knows (i.e. someone in Boeing PNW). You're probably right, it would have leaked onto SM by now if there were anything significant. Not exactly proof, but I'd be pretty surprised if someone didn't blab onto FB/reddit/whatever......they sure did (across both parties) in the immediate aftermath of 1282.
 
I'm sure someone has plugged the FDR into a computer already and a bunch of people are watching an animation of the entire flight. With little hand icons that move all the controls.

It's just a matter of time now....
 
"MX delays and coordination issues" but nothing grounded sure makes it sound like deferred or just unperformed maintenance, and "emergency power" certainly sounds like the RAT did deploy. But what sort of mx screwup would cause both engines to fail at exactly the same time? The nose didn't even wiggle, AFAICT.
 
I'm patient.

But the next non-pilot who sends me a text with that AI generated "crash report" is getting quiet blocked.
 
Boris Badenov said:
"MX delays and coordination issues" but nothing grounded sure makes it sound like deferred or just unperformed maintenance, and "emergency power" certainly sounds like the RAT did deploy. But what sort of mx screwup would cause both engines to fail at exactly the same time? The nose didn't even wiggle, AFAICT.
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I’m still leaning towards some automation mismanagement leading to thrust rolling back to idle, construed as double engine failure and some sort of memory items started that included deploying a RAT.
 
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