Air India plane crash

[SeanD]

The last call from the pilot was a mayday call saying "engine failure" . Yikes. RIP.

Two haunting words heard on radio moments before Air India plane crash

An Air India flight bound for the UK crashed seconds after taking off from Ahmedabad Airport today.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Minuteman]

The RAT on the 787 is in the right-side wing-body fairing aft of the wing

 

[SeanD]

This is crazy. There was actually one survivor. He says he heard a loud noise 30 seconds after takeoff then the plane crashed.

British passenger in seat 11A survives India plane crash, reports say

The London-bound Air India plane carrying 242 people crashed shortly after take-off in western India.

www.bbc.com

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

This is crazy. There was actually one survivor. He says he heard a loud noise 30 seconds after takeoff then the plane crashed.

British passenger in seat 11A survives India plane crash, reports say

The London-bound Air India plane carrying 242 people crashed shortly after take-off in western India.

www.bbc.com

Wow. That's amazing he survived that with what looks to be just a few scratches.

 

[CFI A&P]

I don't know how credible the Times of India is, but they're reporting one survivor who was completely uninjured. Take it with a grain of salt.

Ahmedabad Plane Crash, Flight Crash in Ahmedabad Live: One survivor found on seat 11A of aircraft, says top cop

Air India Ahmedabad Plane Crash News Live: An Air India Boeing 787 Dreamliner, operating as Flight AI171 from Ahmedabad to London Gatwick, crashed sh

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Appears to be a credible source, and not another outlet that’s just AI generated garbage.

 

[Skåning]

The last call from the pilot was a mayday call saying "engine failure" . Yikes. RIP.

Two haunting words heard on radio moments before Air India plane crash

An Air India flight bound for the UK crashed seconds after taking off from Ahmedabad Airport today.

www.express.co.uk

I don’t know if I believe that. Zero smoke or yaw indicating engine failure and they were so close to the ground you wouldn’t be making radio calls, just trying to process what’s happening.

 

[Wardogg]

All I know is I’m booking 11A no matter what airplane I’m on.

 

[DropTank]

Does the RAT deploy automatically or is it part of a memory item?

I can't see the RAT on either video. Can anyone do a red circle for me?

 

[JDean3204]

I can’t link the new video I found, but footage caught the takeoff roll, rotation and initial climb. No yaw, not even a pitch adjustment, seemed to hold the same attitude as it lost altitude and crashed. I would have thought even a gentle engine roll back would cause some movement along the vertical axis, but the video isn’t of the greatest quality so who knows. Bummer situation for sure

What was the temp and elevation of the airfield?

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I can’t link the new video I found, but footage caught the takeoff roll, rotation and initial climb. No yaw, not even a pitch adjustment, seemed to hold the same attitude as it lost altitude and crashed. I would have thought even a gentle engine roll back would cause some movement along the vertical axis, but the video isn’t of the greatest quality so who knows. Bummer situation for sure

What was the temp and elevation of the airfield?

Simon Hadrecky's (Hradecky?) website (The Aviation Herald) is getting the hug-o-death right now for fairly obvious reasons, but I bet he's got the METAR posted already.

 

[Minuteman]

Does the RAT deploy automatically or is it part of a memory item?

One of the conditions for automatic RAT deployment on the 787 is “both engines have failed.” I don’t know what that means specifically beyond there’s probably an EICAS message (i.e. does “failed” include degraded operation there?)

At this point I am not convinced we see the RAT deployed, so this is just a systems discussion.

 

[Minuteman]

but I bet he's got the METAR posted already.

The apparent time-of-departure was 1355 IST (0825Z).

IVAAH 120830Z 24003KT 6000 NSC 37/17 Q1000 NOSIG

 

[JDean3204]

So it was warm but not crazy hot, and the airport is 190 ft. Didn’t catch that someone already posted the wx, thanks

 

[Skåning]

Does the RAT deploy automatically or is it part of a memory item?

I can't see the RAT on either video. Can anyone do a red circle for me?

This maybe?
Or just an artifact from someone filming a screen

 

[Minuteman]

All I know is I’m booking 11A no matter what airplane I’m on.

It is noteworthy that seat 11A on the aircraft is the first row in Economy, next to the mid-cabin boarding door.

 

[Inverted]

In the takeoff video that is circulating, it looks like they rotated right into a stall.

But if there was an engine failure and the RAT is indeed deployed, I wonder if they secured the engine early, and did the wrong side.

 

[Roger Roger]

I don’t know if I believe that. Zero smoke or yaw indicating engine failure and they were so close to the ground you wouldn’t be making radio calls, just trying to process what’s happening.

Completely wrong thrust setting for weight/conditions?

 

[Skåning]

Completely wrong thrust setting for weight/conditions?

I'd think it wouldnt have even gotten off the ground if that was the case

In the takeoff video that is circulating, it looks like they rotated right into a stall.

Its fly by wire so I'd assume you pitch up and it holds it at VLS or whatever Boring calls it

 

[Roger Roger]

id think it wouldnt have even gotten off the ground if that was the case

Or would have dragged the tail in the process of trying to yank it off the runway. Still, it’s what pops into my head.

 

[Inverted]

I'd think it wouldnt have even gotten off the ground if that was the case


Its fly by wire so I'd assume you pitch up and it holds it at VLS or whatever Boring calls it

Yea I dunno how the FBW system works on the 787. It doesn't appear to be a full stall but the airplane seems to have just enough lift to rotate and that is almost it. No yawing moment, no wing rocking. Looks like a very controlled aircraft right to impact. This is an odd one.