Air Choice One
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FlyingT
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I inquired about 2 months ago out of curiosity. I asked about pay, if they depended on Essential Air Service funding, healthcare, and schedule. I received this response from Shane Storz, their DO
Attached is history of ACO and also yes for now we are EAS driven but hope to break away before government cuts but we are contracted out through 2018. We are currently adding aircraft along with starting IWD July 7 and hope to have more growth by this end of this year. Also our first year as an EAS provider we carried 700 passengers and last year we carried 40k. Yes the only pilot base we have right now is STL. Monthly schedules are posted 2 weeks out before the next month. We have weekly schedule updates for operational issues pilots vacation, sick etc. but for the most part you fly your monthly sked.
Monthly flight hours average 75 to 90 hours per month with us.
· Salary: Upon successful completion of Ground/Flight training, starting wage of $30/Block Flight Hour Flown; paid in bi-weekly installments by direct deposit. $1.25 per deim for overnight stays. PIC first year annual salary equals between 31k to 36k depending on flight hours.
Monthly flight hours average 75 to 90 hours per month with us.
· Salary: Upon successful completion of Ground/Flight training, starting wage of $30/Block Flight Hour Flown; paid in bi-weekly installments by direct deposit. $1.25 per deim for overnight stays. PIC first year annual salary equals between 31k to 36k depending on flight hours.
· Beginning 90 days from successful completion of FAR 135 check ride:
o Health and Dental Insurance single coverage provided by Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield. 75% of premium to be paid by Air Choice One. Family coverage is available with premium 100% employee paid. Contact Human Resources when eligibility requirement met.
o Holidays (x1.5 for hours flown only):
§ New Year’s Day
§ Memorial Day
§ Independence Day
§ Labor Day
§ Thanksgiving Day
§ Christmas Day
· Vacation beginning with 2 Weeks after 1 Year of continuous employment from successful completion of FAR 135 check ride (based on a 5-day week this equates to 4 flight hours per day used).
CASS with SWA, UA and some locals Go Jet, TSA and also Frontier. SWA is the biggest for STL because the most flights out. Work schedule is minimum of 2 days off up to 3 and sometimes 4. Schedule is put out monthly but updated weekly for any changes.
o Health and Dental Insurance single coverage provided by Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield. 75% of premium to be paid by Air Choice One. Family coverage is available with premium 100% employee paid. Contact Human Resources when eligibility requirement met.
o Holidays (x1.5 for hours flown only):
§ New Year’s Day
§ Memorial Day
§ Independence Day
§ Labor Day
§ Thanksgiving Day
§ Christmas Day
· Vacation beginning with 2 Weeks after 1 Year of continuous employment from successful completion of FAR 135 check ride (based on a 5-day week this equates to 4 flight hours per day used).
CASS with SWA, UA and some locals Go Jet, TSA and also Frontier. SWA is the biggest for STL because the most flights out. Work schedule is minimum of 2 days off up to 3 and sometimes 4. Schedule is put out monthly but updated weekly for any changes.
chiefaviator
Well-Known Member
I was offered the job as their CP about four years ago. Nice enough owner, pay was very substandard so I passed on the offer.
FedUp
Well-Known Member
i know someone who worked there a month and quit. pay is awful. living in STL is horrific hellscape aka mad max.
flyingbum
Needz Re-Edjamacayshun
It was probably you.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
What about Bear Force One, are they hiring?
FedUp
Well-Known Member
Nope but great try!
flyingbum
Needz Re-Edjamacayshun
Should I try again?
A Life Aloft
Well-Known Member
Bullcrap. All you are doing is trolling this place. Go out and get a job, a life and some serious help.
FedUp
Well-Known Member
Ha nope FACT. Sucks to hear the truth about an industry huh? Keep drinking kool aid! ACO is just another bottom feeder workplace oh but I guess its good to pay dues or something?
flyingbum
Needz Re-Edjamacayshun
You're not telling me anything I don't know about the industry. You're right, ACO probably is a "bottom feeder" or whatever you want to call it. Kool-aid, SRSLY bro? If you don't like the industry, why are you here? Are you like, trying to spread the gospel of, "don't be a pilot cause all you people are ruining it for me, and my standards of what it should be." If you are unhappy and that disgruntled about your experience within this industry, then find something else to do. Presenting yourself on this pilot forum with not one good thing to say, and nothing but unhappy mumblings means it's time for you to reconsider your motives behind what you do.
P.S. While you "sit on your ATP", I'm curious, as well as some others, How did you get that much experience? What kind of crap bottom feeding jobs did you do? Since that is what you like to call them. I have been Flight Instructing for experience.
Now you go lady!
A Life Aloft
Well-Known Member
He mostly speaks a bunch of miserable, exaggerated, whiny, negative, bitter, discouraging crap. His glass is completely empty. I doubt it ever had two drops in it to begin with. Can you find even one vaguely positive thing he has ever said since he joined here? Plus he refuses to answer any direct questions. He's obviously had his own personal issues and failures and now he spends his time trolling here and projecting that upon everyone else. He refuses to even share his background or current situation. He just wants everyone to be as unhappy as he is and to quit. He disregards any and everything that anyone has tried to say to him. I have never seen anyone this continuously bitter and angry post on here, in truth.
I don't find b.s. like this really useful for anyone. Maybe I am missing something. Can you imagine even spending ten seconds with him in a cockpit environment? He supports no one, and tells everyone to forget about aviation as a career. Yeah, that's something of real value that's truly needed on here. lol
I don't find b.s. like this really useful for anyone. Maybe I am missing something. Can you imagine even spending ten seconds with him in a cockpit environment? He supports no one, and tells everyone to forget about aviation as a career. Yeah, that's something of real value that's truly needed on here. lol
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ozziecat35
4 out of 5 great lakes prefer Michigan.
There's one thing to speak the voice of reason about this industry to those coming up and cutting their chops, it's another to be wholly negative and bitter...His bitterness ruins any "truths" he speaks.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
I'm not sure what you guys want to happen. Do you want him to become more positive to suit your preferences? Do you want him to leave? He doesn't sound like a very happy guy to me, and I don't always agree with his gloom, but he's as much right to tell people how he views the industry (or the universe) as you do.
In any case, I don't think following him around from thread to thread repeating how negative and what a naughty poster he is will have the desired effect.
In any case, I don't think following him around from thread to thread repeating how negative and what a naughty poster he is will have the desired effect.
A Life Aloft
Well-Known Member
There are two sides to every coin. When all you have to offer is the marred side, you never have one encouraging thing to say to others ever, hell, you never in participate in other threads and have some fun, you never have any real decent advice or help to offer and all of your comments are tainted with your own extreme bitterness and failures, how does that really "help" anyone?
Making idiotic blanket statements such as "Give up the idea of flying for a living. Period.", does what for a community where people are looking for balanced, reasonable, helpful, insightful and realistic advice? He's so far overboard to the negative side, that it's ridiculous. He isn't helping anyone, he's only publicly venting and spreading his own personal issues.
When you refuse to answer any direct questions or share anything about yourself, how much do you really desire to be a part of that community?
Members have even tried reaching out to him to perhaps help him and were ignored. For crap's sake, who in their right mind picks a screen name like Fedup, goes to the effort to make a blacked out avatar, and joins a forum geared for people looking to have a career in aviation, who are looking to be upbeat/positive and network and does nothing but wallow and whine in his personal misery? If you think he is really here to help anyone, think again.
And if you notice, (read his posts) he doesn't provide any real details, truth or exact reasons why a certain position is not worthwhile/desirable. He just throws out a couple of random, generalized, very snarky , short snipetts of drivel. Frankly, I think he's just full of crap and b.s.ing everyone on what he supposedly even "knows". Hell, the other day he went off on a tear about Seaport in another thread and wasn't even talking about the right company. lol
Still my fave
Making idiotic blanket statements such as "Give up the idea of flying for a living. Period.", does what for a community where people are looking for balanced, reasonable, helpful, insightful and realistic advice? He's so far overboard to the negative side, that it's ridiculous. He isn't helping anyone, he's only publicly venting and spreading his own personal issues.
When you refuse to answer any direct questions or share anything about yourself, how much do you really desire to be a part of that community?
Members have even tried reaching out to him to perhaps help him and were ignored. For crap's sake, who in their right mind picks a screen name like Fedup, goes to the effort to make a blacked out avatar, and joins a forum geared for people looking to have a career in aviation, who are looking to be upbeat/positive and network and does nothing but wallow and whine in his personal misery? If you think he is really here to help anyone, think again.
And if you notice, (read his posts) he doesn't provide any real details, truth or exact reasons why a certain position is not worthwhile/desirable. He just throws out a couple of random, generalized, very snarky , short snipetts of drivel. Frankly, I think he's just full of crap and b.s.ing everyone on what he supposedly even "knows". Hell, the other day he went off on a tear about Seaport in another thread and wasn't even talking about the right company. lol
Still my fave
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Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
OK, we understand. You don't think he's here to help. What do you propose to do about it? I mean other than spending an enormous amount of time complaining about him to no obvious benefit? I find the walls of declamatory response at least as tedious as the initial uselessly-negative posts. They certainly take longer to scroll through.
A Life Aloft
Well-Known Member
Enormous amount of time? What, maybe a total of 35 minutes in 2 weeks? I don't have to "do" anything. He's done it to himself. I was just responding to what you posted here. Seems I am not the only one being tedious.
staledog
Well-Known Member
I don't have a dog in this fight, but even 35 minutes in two weeks seems like a lot of time being used to complain about another user on this site. In comparison, I've used maybe 1 minute in the last two weeks to complain about someone else here. I don't post too much unless I really have something to say, though. So I'm not even sure why I'm posting this.
In this case FedUp does know what he's talking about, though. (Sort of). I know many people who have worked for ACO, the pay is low and the working conditions aren't great. I don't agree that STL is a horrific hellscape, there are some very nice areas. But I do know the ACO crashpad that I went to a few times isn't in the best part of town.