Air Canada puts out RFP...for US regionals?

ChasenSFO

ChasenSFO

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Of course, Canadian airlines can bid too, doesn't specify which US carriers have been invited to partake...

Read here.

MONTREAL, Sept. 23, 2013 /PRNewswire/ – Air Canada today announced that it will undertake a Request for Proposal (RFP) process to select a new regional airline to operate certain existing U.S. regional transborder routes, starting in mid-2014. Select Canadian and U.S. regional carriers will be invited to participate in the RFP process and submit their respective pricing and other terms and conditions of carriage.
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Surprised this is...legal.
 
They're going to probably want access to our market as well.

Devil's in the detail on this one.
 
ChasenSFO said:
Because all the money is funded by and all the profit is going to a Canadian company. And what of 5th freedom rights?
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If it's all US to Canada flights, 5th freedom doesn't apply does it? Think someone running RJ's from hubs to smaller US destinations that Air Canada couldn't serve, with their metal, like Air Georgian.
 
This isn't good. The Jazz Pilots took Air Canada to the mat a few years ago, Air Canada is trying to break Jazz up.

Furthermore, Canada has had a lot of issues with Foreign Nationals flying for Canadian outfits on temporary duties. If it can happen up there, it can happen here...
 
All of you are under the impression that Air Canada actually wants a US regional carrier to fly for them. They just want somebody like Trans States to put in a stupid low bid so that they can put downward pressure on the Canadian regionals' pricing.
 
Seggy said:
This isn't good. The Jazz Pilots took Air Canada to the mat a few years ago, Air Canada is trying to break Jazz up.

Furthermore, Canada has had a lot of issues with Foreign Nationals flying for Canadian outfits on temporary duties. If it can happen up there, it can happen here...
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Agreed. Bad precedent.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
If it's all US to Canada flights, 5th freedom doesn't apply does it? Think someone running RJ's from hubs to smaller US destinations that Air Canada couldn't serve, with their metal, like Air Georgian.
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Yeah I looked further into it, it'd be legal. It could be similar to Aer Lingus flying an A330 IAD-MAD as a United flight I guess.

Still, Air Canada kinda went backwards from consolidating their regionals into Jazz to then signing and creating new regionals to undercut Jazz. Now this. Race to the bottom has spread to the great white North.
 
I don't think we are the lowest paid in the world. What are the rates in Mexico? The Carribean? South America?
 
Kingairer said:
I don't think we are the lowest paid in the world. What are the rates in Mexico? The Carribean? South America?
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I would agree as I've met a few people 3:17 at least trying to get on with a regional from Latin America to a South America. One has 737 time and was hoping for the 170.
 
Seggy said:
This isn't good. The Jazz Pilots took Air Canada to the mat a few years ago, Air Canada is trying to break Jazz up.

Furthermore, Canada has had a lot of issues with Foreign Nationals flying for Canadian outfits on temporary duties. If it can happen up there, it can happen here...
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I'm fine with it provided it goes both ways - it upsets me that a European can relatively easily get both right to work in the US as well as convert their license easily, yet if I applied at "Holland Air Taxi" I wouldn't be able to get a work permit or a license conversion easily at all.
 
ppragman said:
I'm fine with it provided it goes both ways - it upsets me that a European can relatively easily get both right to work in the US as well as convert their license easily, yet if I applied at "Holland Air Taxi" I wouldn't be able to get a work permit or a license conversion easily at all.
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You are missing the point.

It NEEDS to be hard to get a job flying here in the USA and Canada. Cabatoge/Foreign Ownership is the real dealio. It could be worse than the outsourced regional problem if we don't kick it in the ass ahead of time.
 
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