Age discriminated against?

mtsu_av8er said:
For every older student that doesn't want to fly with you, there's a younger student that PREFERS to fly with you.
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Guess it's just our demographic working against us. With our airplane, we're not getting many 16-20 year olds looking to fly...
 
Chris_Ford said:
Hey, at least I can fit with someone else in the airplane.
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Nice...because we all know that that sort of discrimination is still 100% legal....

Chris_Ford said:
What's it going to take for you to stop following me around and just commenting mindless drivel within my threads? You're the posterboy for postnatal abortion if I've ever seen one. One would think that at your age, you'd be mature enough to just ignore me, and not make a big deal out of it, rather than make it a part of your signature and follow me around from thread to thread while you allegedly ignore me.

What I posted was 100% valid and it has nothing to do with people making these decisions based on my attitude (which isn't quite the same as how I am on JC, but, I digress)
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Chris, I don't think you have a clue as to how abrasive your attitude is, nor when it's engaged and when it isn't. The fact that you seem to think it's okay to act differently here than you claim to IRL simply proves that you don't understand how important it is to get along with everyone in this industry. It's just too small to think that you can get away with being a d*ck when you feel like it. This field is all about networking, man; don't think that because the bridges you see built via this site seem "virtual" to you, that they're not subject to being burnt. I'm just trying to help you out, here; dudes have had newhire class dates rescinded due to stuff they'd previously posted online. I've seen it happen more than once.
 
aloft said:
Chris, I don't think you have a clue as to how abrasive your attitude is, nor when it's engaged and when it isn't. The fact that you seem to think it's okay to act differently here than you claim to IRL simply proves that you don't understand how important it is to get along with everyone in this industry. It's just too small to think that you can get away with being a d*ck when you feel like it. This field is all about networking, man; don't think that because the bridges you see built via this site seem "virtual" to you, that they're not subject to being burnt. I'm just trying to help you out, here; dudes have had newhire class dates rescinded due to stuff they'd previously posted online. I've seen it happen more than once.
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Is that what you call tact? You're as subtle as a brick in the small of my back. The way to go about that would've been to PM me your concerns rather than follow me through every thread and post BS and try and make me the JC whipping boy. I do believe the impetus to all this was dropping my name in a thread a month or so ago that I had not posted in, and you decided to use me as the posterchild for what's wrong in the industry (despite the fact that you based this opinion on nothing other than pure conjecture). You've dropped the "scab" word on me based on another factless opinion. You're not there to "help" me, Matt, you're committing character assassination.

I'll admit that sometimes I do go (purposefully) overboard, but you'll notice that I try to limit that to the political threads, because a lot of fallacious logic is thrown around there. I'm a proponent of considering all sides of an issue rather than make rampant generalizations. However, you'll notice that I do! make rampant generalizations, and you see how absurd they are, right? That's exactly the point, to show that people making similar generalizations are sometimes being absurd, even if it's consensual amongst societal mores. (I hate being one of those "name droppers" but by reading Jonathan Swift, you'd understand my POV/writing style a lot more). The internet should help us foster discussion amongst both sides of an issue rather than hinder it. You'd be surprised by the PMs or AOL IMs I get saying, "Thanks for saying that, I wanted to say it, but the debate was so one-sided... I thought I was going crazy!" or similar

As far as I'm concerned, having an opinion about something shouldn't burn any bridges. However, I realize that others hold differing values and it may bother people that I try to triumph unpopular ideas. However, there's a difference in handling it maturely. For example, John Herreshof and I got off to a rough start (admittedly my fault) and while we often argue, I think if we were put in a room together, we'd get along fine. So to those people who did take care of this professionally and maturely(those ignoring me, though this is futile), Lloyd and I believe Acadia, I'll apologize for anything that has truly offended, because that has never been my intention. To those who lower themselves (maybe raise themselves, I don't know how low you are) to name calling and a mind-numbing display of e-hubris, I have no remorse.

Edit: And I have been trying to chill it off a bit, but it's sort of difficult when you've become the whipping boy "conservative" on the board, when all I'm opposed to is blatent partisanship :)
 
.....And back to the subject.

I really haven't had that problem. The oldest student I currently have is 32 and we have a pretty good relationship. I'd go so far as to say that we're even friends. The reason for that is mainly because he is in the professional course and I spend up to four hours a day in lessons with him. I tend to make friends very quickly with all of my students. Even when I being most professional, I end up being friends with them. It's got it's pros and cons.

pro
I can be fussing at them one minute and be laughing with them the next minute.

I can be tough on them and they know that I'm not doing it just to be a hard a@@.

con
Sometimes they don't know when it's time to get serious. Which in turn causes me to be a hard a@@.
 
It is the customers money. They can spend it however and with whomever and whyever they want. I know you know that, but that really is what it comes down to.
 
Heeey, this thread is getting interesting...

but back to the question at hand... I started instructing when I was 18 and, oddly enough, have never had a student leave me for another CFI. I HAVE, on the other hand, had a bunch of comments and questions on my age and qualifications. However, after explaning everything to them, they were perfectly fine....
 
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