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Blackwater bought one Super Tucano and leased it to the Navy for a few years. I may be wrong, but I think there is a law against U.S. registered aircraft being armed and flown in combat operations.

The Navy's airplane was Navy-owned, "Imminent Fury":

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There were actually several USAF guys (pilots, WSOs) who were in on this project, too. It's apparently been shelved for a bit, as was the USAF's OA-X program (the AT-6B).
 
Just wondering but there any of these types of jobs that do not require a security clearance?

I'm sure all thes jobs require some level of security clearance.

However, there are different clearances that have different requirements.
 
Look at what it costs to train a civilian pilot. Then look at what it costs the military to put a soldier through basic and the MOS school. Civilian is less than 100K while training a soldier costs the government a few million.
 
Look at what it costs to train a civilian pilot. Then look at what it costs the military to put a soldier through basic and the MOS school. Civilian is less than 100K while training a soldier costs the government a few million.

It barely costs a "few million" to train a military pilot. I'd be very surprised if it cost that much to train a non-aviating grunt.
 
It barely costs a "few million" to train a military pilot. I'd be very surprised if it cost that much to train a non-aviating grunt.

Don't sell yourself short, you have to figure in all the golf courses, nice BOQs and Base Ops facilities. That being said, it must cost at least $100,000 to train a Navy pilot
 
Don't sell yourself short, you have to figure in all the golf courses, nice BOQs and Base Ops facilities. That being said, it must cost at least $100,000 to train a Navy pilot

I think the then-year training cost to get me from day 1 of pilot training through the end of my initial F-15E FTU ("RAG" for you Anal Naviator types) back in the late 90s was about $1.3M.
 
I think the then-year training cost to get me from day 1 of pilot training through the end of my initial F-15E FTU ("RAG" for you Anal Naviator types) back in the late 90s was about $1.3M.

I am just busting your balls. I don't care if it costs $15 million, because you know it just depends on which pot it comes out of.

I like to consider myself a multimillion dollar product.
 
Just wondering but there any of these types of jobs that do not require a security clearance?

I wouldn't think so, not if your going downrange anyways. Your privy to a lot of classified material, like the locations of soldiers, units, and assets, and encrypted radio frequencies. Your ISR is supporting very specific "live" operations so theres a lot of stress and responsibility there.

That said, if you have a clean record and are qualified the company could justify paying for you to get a security clearance. Basically its an extensive backround check, interview, and if its a top secret I believe a lie detector test as well. I have a regular Secret Clearance, It took about 7.5 months from submitting my SF86 to having my clearance. Just to give you an idea of how long it takes.
 
+1 for a secret clearance. It took about 6 months and all of my contacts were called that I put on the list.
 
Been a month for me now and no reply. =(

Right after I emailed them they specifically said do not contact us, we'll contact you...... Would you guys still call or email to follow up?
 
Right after I emailed them they specifically said do not contact us, we'll contact you...... Would you guys still call or email to follow up?

If they specifically said do not contact them, what would you assume that means?

I suppose you could........if you'd like your application to go VFR-direct to the circular file.
 
You will make a constant left hand turn for 5 hours, every day or night unless they get sporty and send you around to the right. Paid while at duty post, not when home so it's not that great of money unless you plan on being out for more than six months of the year. If you can stand doing circles all the time and then go home then this will work for you. If you get bored easily or restless then probably not it.
 
You will make a constant left hand turn for 5 hours, every day or night unless they get sporty and send you around to the right. Paid while at duty post, not when home so it's not that great of money unless you plan on being out for more than six months of the year. If you can stand doing circles all the time and then go home then this will work for you. If you get bored easily or restless then probably not it.

How's that any different than flying from A to B in the FLs with the autopilot on? Sounds exactly like the same boredom most airline pilots deal with!
 
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