AeroCrew Job Fair - ATL 5/21 - $$$
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There is another one on the same day in Orlando (5/31, not 5/21). The orlando one pays you to attend.
http://fapa.aero/jobs/default.asp?conf=MCO14
http://fapa.aero/jobs/default.asp?conf=MCO14
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
I think Scott is a stand up guy, but the job fair is NOT worth $104 to see regionals. You can get a job interview sight unseen via $65 AirlineApps subscription.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Considering airlineapps can be done for free there really is no reason at all to spend extra money for a regional.
Personally I am waiting for the majors/legacies to start going to more fairs. I don't have the money to drop on a fair where a major or legacy might attend. Sadly these fairs are selling out months ahead of time with none of the good airlines even having confirmed their presence.
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Aero Crew Solutions
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@cencal83406 , thank you for the compliment. I can understand why you would think that the job fair is not worth the money. Yes, the regional airlines are in need of pilots badly. I host these events so pilots have the opportunity to meet face to face with the recruiters. We have Copa Airlines and 13 regional airlines attending the Atlanta show. The value of attending a job fair is the opportunity of multiple job offers in one day. If you are not receiving any calls from the airlines the job fair will allow you an opportunity to show why you would be a successful candidate.
@Maurus , we will have Spirit and United attend future events this year. Tickets for each job fair go on sale at a specific date and time. Airlines listed for each event are confirmed. Membership is not required to attend an event.
If anybody has a question about our events or a question about your career please feel free to PM me. Good luck to everyone.
@Maurus , we will have Spirit and United attend future events this year. Tickets for each job fair go on sale at a specific date and time. Airlines listed for each event are confirmed. Membership is not required to attend an event.
If anybody has a question about our events or a question about your career please feel free to PM me. Good luck to everyone.
Beep
Well-Known Member
Are the ticket prices variable from one event to the next?
Just checked the website and found the information I was looking for. I am planning to attend the Dallas event, so I will be contacting you folks next month when the tickets become available.
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amorris311
Well-Known Member
I'll second the fact he is a stand up guy. I was the last guy to go at his job fair in Chicago a few months back. It was super late (think 11pm) and he still had a smile on his face and was encouraging to the few that were left. He and his wife put a full days work in and the space he secures is not free. Yes it is an initial cost that is hard to stomach but as others have mentioned it might be a way to get those extra points so you get a phone call. Everyone has a unique background and computers cannot gauge people the same way face to face does. We know he reads the forum so send him a pm and I'm sure he can point you in the right direction. Best of luck to all that attend.
Aero Crew Solutions
Well-Known Member
@Derg , they are expensive. In fact the economy has rebounded and the hotels are in control when it comes to pricing. When I decided to host the Atlanta job fair I knew I was going to lose money from the start. But that is OK because if I can help one guy start his career it was worth it to me. If you can attend the Atlanta job fair you will have as much time as you want with each company.
Yup. I spent an obscene amount of money on 2010 and didn't break even. But, of course, every Tom, Dick and Harry wanted me to be a "bro" and just slide them in gratis. Hell, I didn't even break even and that's generally my only goal as I'm an career information/job search socialist.
Hotels don't think "Wow! A big group of cheap pilots who are going to bring in sack lunches, taxi in from cheaper hotels off negotiated block rates let's give them a low rate". I can virtually guarantee that 1,000 pilots will bring in 10% of the revenue that 20 middle-aged accountants having a mid-week retreat will and, as I've seen, the RFP responses in 2014 certainly reflect that.
Chuck Colgan still owes me money.
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Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Good to see they are confirmed!
One of the other job fair peeps set up a fair only to send invitations hoping someone would show. Sadly it is already sold out 5 months in advance with no confirmations from any of the majors or legacies.
I understand the need to make money back from making these fairs but the regionals are ultimately the ones that are in desperate need of pilots. They should be the ones to pay.
The majors have 0 need of a job fair. Way more pilots knocking down the doors than they currently need. I understand why the money spent would be on the pilot side in this case. The major airline wouldn't show up if they had to pay.
scooter2525
Very well Member
Thanks for putting that together! We had a great time staying at the Palms, and the ticket price wasnt bad at all. Especially with all the extra stuff that came with it. (Ravi, etc) we still talk about what a good time was had.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Or for the low price of "free" for certain airlines who are no longer AirlineApps participants.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
...weird, me too.
Sorry for you alls troubles with the job fairs. Pilots can pay for their first jobs, they can fork over another 20 bones. I haven't done a job fair yet but I have had a small business, you ain't doing it for free.
Well, what I was trying to do was to "shift" the burden from the attendees to the airlines.
The problem is that too many airlines treat job fairs like "junkets". I went to one of the FltOps "pre job fair events" and there was roast baron of beef, open bars, it was phenomenal. Those guys wine and dine the recruiters something fierce. But then the next day, it's all business, long lines and an air of hopelessness among the job seekers. Corralled, categorized, "senioritied", all that jazz.
I really wanted to go 'flip mode', interface the job seekers not only at the job event, but also at the "mixer". But at the end of the day, it was probably a little too early. Most of the exhibitors understood and appreciated my angle, but then a few thought it was yet another "come party in Las Vegas on the job seeker and Jetcareers' dime and leave without addressing their financial responsibility" — which ultimately came out of my own pocket.
I could run a basic job fair. But you know what, I have doubts about the utility of such. We've had far more success in the informal "cocktail mixer" environment, even at "ACE 2010" because, as in the business world, most deals happen over a club sandwich, a G&T or a mini taco.
Will I do it again? Sure, but it's going to have to be a unique event, Jetcareers-style. If it's not an extension of what we profess here about personal connections and networking, I really don't have any interest. I do not want the FltOps-style event where the exhibitors are treated like royalty and the job seekers stand out in Soviet Russia era "breadlines" the next day.
The airlines have to be conditioned to cough out money if they want to find quality applicants. We must end the idea that looking for a job in aviation means cutting checks at every corner. A business will drop $50,000-$100,000 for a holiday mixer for the second floor secretaries ALONE, they can afford a fraction of that to find solid employees.